We’ve had enough of digital monopolies and surveillance capitalism. We want an alternative world that works for everyone, just like the original intention of the web and net.

We seek a world of open platforms and protocols with real choices of applications and services for people. We care about privacy, transparency and autonomy. Our tools and organisations should fundamentally be accountable and resilient.


Eric Mill [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] GNU Internet Stack / youbroketheinternet.org 2013-12-29 15:26:45 (6 years 10 mons 2 days 04:30:00 ago)
I'm really glad this is happening - for one, it's incredibly educational for me, a mere web developer who has never written a line of C professionally. And even that chart is helpful in focusing people's attention.

The one thing that rubs me the wrong way is lumping in JSON and XML as things that have to be replaced with a "smarter" protocol, PSYC. Why is this in here? JSON is an open, simple, intentionally dumb format that is ubiquitous and incredibly useful. It certainly has downsides! But there's a reason Protocol Buffers hasn't taken over the world, which is that it requires more upfront investment of time and complexity, is more rigid, etc.

I don't know, I don't want to criticize a great effort over maybe a small thing, but it's already asking developers to start over on a number of things. If the effort wants to gain traction, maybe consider taking one of the successful, ownerless, omnipresent protocols we've managed to converge on and build on top of it. Pick your battles!

On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Benjamin Heitmann <benjamin.heitmann@deri.org> wrote:
Hello there,

I found this via the 30C3 coverage, its very relevant,
however I did not see it mentioned here, so I thought I would share it:


encourages projects to make a new internet stack from low level infrastructure all the way up to
end user applications.

I wanted to attached is a picture which assigns various projects to different levels of the stack,
but the picture is too big.. ;)

All in all a very interesting umbrella project.

cheers, Benjamin.

Benjamin Heitmann, BSc, MSc
PhD Researcher
Unit for Information Mining and Retrieval (UIMR)
Digital Enterprise Research Institute (DERI)
NUI Galway, Ireland

publications and slides:

public PGP key available at: http://keys.gnupg.net/