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Jonathan Deamer [LibreList] Redecentralization on Wikipedia 2013-12-13 20:06:23 (5 years 10 mons 1 day 23:50:00 ago)
After the cool media coverage redecentralizing tech projects and Redecentralize.org itself have received recently (New Yorker http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/12/the-mission-to-decentralize-the-internet.html and BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/pods - nice work, Irina!), I've added a brief section to the Wikipedia page on decentralization.


I'll try to update as there's more coverage, until the movement gathers such unstoppable momentum it needs to be broken out into its own page.

Are there any canonical articles about the general concept yet I should include?
Francis Irving [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Redecentralization on Wikipedia 2013-12-13 23:15:34 (5 years 10 mons 1 day 20:40:00 ago)
I don't know of any *definitive* articles.

I think it's a topic that keeps coming back... For example, this
series by Danny O'Brien in 2008
http://www.oblomovka.com/wp/category/living-on-the-edge/

Or this on CNN nearly two years ago.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/28/tech/web/vice-free-the-network/index.html

I think a *definitive* article would be a much clearer history than
that. Factually backing up statements about it originally being more
centralized, and so on.

So probably, finding more detailed references for the things the New
Yorker article mentions?

Generally, BTW, do please mention interesting articles or videos here!
I tweet them out from @redecentralize, and I'd rather have the ones
that people want to read...

Francis

On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 08:06:23PM +0000, Jonathan Deamer wrote:
> After the cool media coverage redecentralizing tech projects and
> Redecentralize.org itself have received recently (New Yorker
> http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/12/the-mission-to-decentralize-the-internet.htmland
> BBC
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/pods - nice work, Irina!), I've added
> a brief section to the Wikipedia page on decentralization.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decentralization#Centralization_and_redecentralization_of_the_Internet
> 
> I'll try to update as there's more coverage, until the movement gathers
> such unstoppable momentum it needs to be broken out into its own page.
> 
> Are there any canonical articles about the general concept yet I should
> include?

-- 
Do *you* have an awesome idea you never quite manage to do? 
http://www.awesomefoundation.org/en/chapters/liverpool/
Ira [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Redecentralization on Wikipedia 2013-12-14 22:14:43 (5 years 10 mons 21:41:00 ago)
Thanks Jonathan!

@All: would it be worth starting a list of reference material / related reading on our swarm wiki? We could spit up basic background idea notes (where the new yorker article does a good job I think) and more in depth pieces (I bet Francis & others will have a few suggestions here)!



On 13 December 2013 23:15, Francis Irving <francis@flourish.org> wrote:
I don't know of any *definitive* articles.

I think it's a topic that keeps coming back... For example, this
series by Danny O'Brien in 2008
http://www.oblomovka.com/wp/category/living-on-the-edge/

Or this on CNN nearly two years ago.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/28/tech/web/vice-free-the-network/index.html

I think a *definitive* article would be a much clearer history than
that. Factually backing up statements about it originally being more
centralized, and so on.

So probably, finding more detailed references for the things the New
Yorker article mentions?

Generally, BTW, do please mention interesting articles or videos here!
I tweet them out from @redecentralize, and I'd rather have the ones
that people want to read...

Francis

On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 08:06:23PM +0000, Jonathan Deamer wrote:
> After the cool media coverage redecentralizing tech projects and
> Redecentralize.org itself have received recently (New Yorker
> http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/12/the-mission-to-decentralize-the-internet.htmland
> BBC
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/pods - nice work, Irina!), I've added
> a brief section to the Wikipedia page on decentralization.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decentralization#Centralization_and_redecentralization_of_the_Internet
>
> I'll try to update as there's more coverage, until the movement gathers
> such unstoppable momentum it needs to be broken out into its own page.
>
> Are there any canonical articles about the general concept yet I should
> include?

--
Do *you* have an awesome idea you never quite manage to do?
http://www.awesomefoundation.org/en/chapters/liverpool/



--
Irina Bolychevsky
@shevski
Francis Irving [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Redecentralization on Wikipedia 2013-12-15 11:58:55 (5 years 10 mons 07:57:00 ago)

I've got a list of all the articles I've tweeted out on @redecentralize, can add those

On 14 Dec 2013 22:15, "Ira" <shevski@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Jonathan!

@All: would it be worth starting a list of reference material / related reading on our swarm wiki? We could spit up basic background idea notes (where the new yorker article does a good job I think) and more in depth pieces (I bet Francis & others will have a few suggestions here)!



On 13 December 2013 23:15, Francis Irving <francis@flourish.org> wrote:
I don't know of any *definitive* articles.

I think it's a topic that keeps coming back... For example, this
series by Danny O'Brien in 2008
http://www.oblomovka.com/wp/category/living-on-the-edge/

Or this on CNN nearly two years ago.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/28/tech/web/vice-free-the-network/index.html

I think a *definitive* article would be a much clearer history than
that. Factually backing up statements about it originally being more
centralized, and so on.

So probably, finding more detailed references for the things the New
Yorker article mentions?

Generally, BTW, do please mention interesting articles or videos here!
I tweet them out from @redecentralize, and I'd rather have the ones
that people want to read...

Francis

On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 08:06:23PM +0000, Jonathan Deamer wrote:
> After the cool media coverage redecentralizing tech projects and
> Redecentralize.org itself have received recently (New Yorker
> http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/12/the-mission-to-decentralize-the-internet.htmland
> BBC
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/pods - nice work, Irina!), I've added
> a brief section to the Wikipedia page on decentralization.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decentralization#Centralization_and_redecentralization_of_the_Internet
>
> I'll try to update as there's more coverage, until the movement gathers
> such unstoppable momentum it needs to be broken out into its own page.
>
> Are there any canonical articles about the general concept yet I should
> include?

--
Do *you* have an awesome idea you never quite manage to do?
http://www.awesomefoundation.org/en/chapters/liverpool/



--
Irina Bolychevsky
@shevski
Benjamin Heitmann [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Redecentralization on Wikipedia 2013-12-15 15:59:11 (5 years 10 mons 03:57:00 ago)

On 15 Dec 2013, at 11:58, Francis Irving <francis@flourish.org> wrote:

I've got a list of all the articles I've tweeted out on @redecentralize, can add those

That would be great. 

Tweets are very ephemeral, whereas a wiki page would be easier to use for future reference :)
Benjamin ANDRE [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Redecentralization on Wikipedia 2013-12-15 17:06:18 (5 years 10 mons 02:50:00 ago)
yes, and anyone can contribute to a wiki page.
article are precious ressources.

Benjamin ANDRE - +33 (0)6 86 25 36 66 - Cozy.io


2013/12/15 Benjamin Heitmann <benjamin.heitmann@deri.org>

On 15 Dec 2013, at 11:58, Francis Irving <francis@flourish.org> wrote:

I've got a list of all the articles I've tweeted out on @redecentralize, can add those

That would be great. 

Tweets are very ephemeral, whereas a wiki page would be easier to use for future reference :)

Benjamin ANDRE [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Redecentralization on Wikipedia 2013-12-15 17:20:08 (5 years 10 mons 02:36:00 ago)

Benjamin ANDRE - +33 (0)6 86 25 36 66 - Cozy.io


2013/12/15 Benjamin ANDRE <ben@cozycloud.cc>
yes, and anyone can contribute to a wiki page.
article are precious ressources.

Benjamin ANDRE - +33 (0)6 86 25 36 66 - Cozy.io


2013/12/15 Benjamin Heitmann <benjamin.heitmann@deri.org>

On 15 Dec 2013, at 11:58, Francis Irving <francis@flourish.org> wrote:

I've got a list of all the articles I've tweeted out on @redecentralize, can add those

That would be great. 

Tweets are very ephemeral, whereas a wiki page would be easier to use for future reference :)


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