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Christian de Larrinaga [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] The next billion. A broken web. Social implications. 2015-09-17 14:00:59 (3 years 9 mons 26 days 09:58:00 ago)
There are five Internet Society chapters in India, Delhi, Kolkata,
Bangalore, Chennai, Trivandrum. One each in Nepal, Bangladesh, Pakistan
and Sri Lanka.

http://www.internetsociety.org/find-chapter

Delhi Chapter
http://www.isocdelhi.in
Contact Name:
Dr. Govind
Contact Email:
mukesh@nixi.in
Date Chartered: Chartered December 2002. Rejuvenated in November 2008.

I don't that chapter although I've seen evidence the Chennai chapter has
been active as we've had some links and policy project with them fairly
recently.


Christian

Anish Mangal wrote:
> Hi Christian,
> 
> I'm in India - currently Delhi, but hover about a lot in the mountains
> to the north/north-east. I will look up the names you mentioned - thanks
> for sharing them. If you have links or document(s) handy, that would be
> really great too.
> 
> I believe the problem has atleast two aspects - educating people and
> engaging them in conversation which was the thing I had in mind when I
> shared this email, and second, the larger fight of generally making
> internet a better place :-)
> 
> Cheers,
> Anish
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Christian de Larrinaga
> <cdel@firsthand.net <mailto:cdel@firsthand.net>> wrote:
> 
>     Where are you Anish?
> 
>     I was invited as their guest and attended the INCA conference in Bristol
>     UK for last two days in which alternative and community networks in UK
>     such as B4RN were very much in evidence.
> 
>     One of the outcomes on my intray today is I was approached for some
>     enabling documentation that alternative network community providers
>     could provide to communities to better inform them of the issues and
>     comparisons between going to telco based broadband v. their own network
>     service.
> 
>     The more upstream issues around using applications such as web Ad based
>     services and the general levels of insecurity through third party
>     information sharing or theft (doxing)
> 
>     Local Internet Society chapters are a good resource for this such as
>     mine ISOC UK England but as volunteer bodies they need community support
>     to build this type of information resource.
> 
> 
>     Christian
> 
>     Anish Mangal wrote:
>     > Wanting to have a discussion with folks who work with or are
>     involved in
>     > providing internet access to people/places which didn't have it
>     before.
>     >
>     > Volunteering for the SchoolServer/XSCE[1] project, I largely work with
>     > communities which are rural, often remote, and largely disconnected to
>     > the internet. At these places, access to CC-licensed or public domain
>     > content is provided to children (sometimes specifically in
>     schools) and
>     > the larger community through village-spanning wifi networks (for an
>     > example, see [2][3]). Many times there is no internet access, but in a
>     > few cases there is some limited (in bandwidth) connectivity available.
>     > Naturally, the question of "enabling the internet" comes up.
>     Whether it
>     > be some educator or an elder in the village, they want to be aware of
>     > the benefits and the dangers of enabling internet access.
>     >
>     > A few years ago, I myself believed that the internet is a force for
>     > good, and wider internet access is the only way forward. Lately
>     however,
>     > my perceptions have changed. There are many real issues related to
>     > privacy, cultural change etc. that need to discussed at length
>     with the
>     > community and this involves effort. The short cut is to assume that
>     > people will learn themselves once access is provided, but I don't
>     > believe in that any more.
>     >
>     > So, if I as a volunteer working in these places cannot spend time to
>     > have this discussion with the stakeholders involved, I would actually
>     > prefer not providing access (postponing for later). This would have
>     > sounded crazy to me 3-4 years ago, but is perhaps why I'm
>     subscribed to
>     > this list right now :-)
>     >
>     > Through the XSCE project we have control over the kind of (offline)
>     > services we provide and internet websites we allow access to. Still, I
>     > would love to have a discussion to form some kind of:
>     >
>     > (1) Key points worth discussing with a community before enabling
>     > internet a ccess
>     > (2) Have some kind of on-ramp as a template
>     >
>     > I know there are large foundations and many people working at
>     this, and
>     > this needs to be thought through. For example, if you go to the
>     mozilla
>     > web-literacy website [4] they seem to have a logical progression
>     > structure from Explore -> Build -> Connect. I don't think that is
>     correct.
>     >
>     > Regardless of my actions or whatever the XSCE project does, more
>     people
>     > are going to go online through Facebook's internet.org
>     <http://internet.org>
>     > <http://internet.org>, or google balloons etc.. So this is a fight
>     worth
>     > fighting.  :-)
>     >
>     > Thoughts?
>     >
>     > [1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Community_Edition/FAQ
>     > [2]
>     >
>     https://bhagmalpur.wordpress.com/2013/07/21/hello-world-from-bhagmalpur-part-1/
>     > [3]
>     >
>     https://bhagmalpur.wordpress.com/2013/07/27/hello-world-from-bhagmalpur-part-2/
>     > [4] https://teach.mozilla.org/teach-like-mozilla/web-literacy/
>     >
>     > Cheers,
>     > Anish
>     >
> 
>     --
>     Christian de Larrinaga  FBCS, CITP,
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>     @ FirstHand
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>     cdel@firsthand.net <mailto:cdel@firsthand.net>
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> 
> 
> 
> 

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Christian de Larrinaga  FBCS, CITP,
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@ FirstHand
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cdel@firsthand.net
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