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Eric Mill [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Spring of User Experience 2014-02-28 09:55:06 (7 years 1 mon 12 days 05:33:00 ago)

I see Moxie doesn't think much of Telegram:


-- Eric

On Feb 28, 2014 9:48 AM, "Eric Mill" <eric@konklone.com> wrote:

Not to drag this out, but would you mind posting a link to something about Telegram's travails? I'm interested.

There's the potential for a dangerous wave of slickly designed messaging apps that adopt the mantle of security without truly prioritizing it. I had a frustrating interaction with the Tox team here, for example:


-- Eric

On Feb 28, 2014 6:51 AM, "Ximin Luo" <infinity0@pwned.gg> wrote:
On 27/02/14 20:20, Francis Irving wrote:
> Hi all!
> Having interviewed many geeks, I now think the limiting factor in mass adoption is involvement of more design and user experience people in decentralization projects.
> As I describe in the Gigaom article today, I also think designers are quite interested in this (post Snowden), and likely there are some who need good projects to help/start but don't know about this movement.
> We are going to try and interview more people with that kind of background, who have done at least something tangible in this area.
> Ideas I have:
> Telegram - who does design stuff there?

For the love of god please do not give Telegram any more attention.

They are a marketing machine with no security credentials whatsoever.

They are so far up their own ass they are like a 3D projection of a klein bottle.

They ate a crap load of humble cake, perhaps it will be worth talking to them in a year or so. But not now. Give more deserving projects your attention for the time being.