We’ve had enough of digital monopolies and surveillance capitalism. We want an alternative world that works for everyone, just like the original intention of the web and net.

We seek a world of open platforms and protocols with real choices of applications and services for people. We care about privacy, transparency and autonomy. Our tools and organisations should fundamentally be accountable and resilient.


Paul Frazee [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] GNU Internet Stack / youbroketheinternet.org 2013-12-29 21:46:31 (7 years 12 days 23:42:00 ago)
No kidding about the diagram. 

Interesting statement on http://youbroketheinternet.org/map

Because the web browser is so overladen with surveillance functionality such as cookies, invisible counters, e-tags and plenty of Javascript doing what the server tells it to. Now comes WebRTC which relies on web servers for authentication and thus enables them to run a man in the middle attack, and AJAX, which took off as the foundation of the web 2.0 and landed as a surveillance tool. Should we want to do web-based user interfaces, we'll have to use a custom browser with disabled HTTP support.

I'm not sure they justify dropping HTTP support.  Aren't these issues with the access policies in the browser? I'm slow to let go of the legacy and relative simplicity when incremental fixes are still possible.

They also knock on X.509 and DNS in that page. There's been some talk about namecoin. Anybody follow that closely enough to comment?

Regarding WebRTC's MITM vulnerability, I wonder about using http://www.w3.org/TR/WebCryptoAPI/ someday to do client certs, though tcpacek's FUD about client-side crypto is hard to ignore. Any counter thoughts?

On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Francis Irving <francis@flourish.org> wrote:
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Wow, that's a pretty hardcore diagram!

Any key projects on it that are missing from this list?


On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 06:08:24PM +0000, Benjamin Heitmann wrote:
> Hello there,
> I found this via the 30C3 coverage, its very relevant,
> however I did not see it mentioned here, so I thought I would share it:
> http://youbroketheinternet.org/
> encourages projects to make a new internet stack from low level infrastructure all the way up to
> end user applications.
> I wanted to attached is a picture which assigns various projects to different levels of the stack,
> but the picture is too big.. ;)
> All in all a very interesting umbrella project.
> cheers, Benjamin.
> --
> Benjamin Heitmann, BSc, MSc
> PhD Researcher
> Unit for Information Mining and Retrieval (UIMR)
> Digital Enterprise Research Institute (DERI)
> NUI Galway, Ireland
> publications and slides:
> http://www.deri.ie/about/team/member/benjamin_heitmann/
> http://www.slideshare.net/metaman/
> https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Benjamin_Heitmann/
> public PGP key available at: http://keys.gnupg.net/

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