We’ve had enough of digital monopolies and surveillance capitalism. We want an alternative world that works for everyone, just like the original intention of the web and net.

We seek a world of open platforms and protocols with real choices of applications and services for people. We care about privacy, transparency and autonomy. Our tools and organisations should fundamentally be accountable and resilient.


Benjamin ANDRE [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello! 2013-12-10 17:36:48 (5 years 7 mons 12 days 05:41:00 ago)
we do have some work, but with your feedbacks, I am pretty sure that we will deliver a useful tool !
At the moment we are woking hard on contacts, agenda and file synchronisation.

Decentralization will happen, the advantages are too high. And the "side effects" of centralization are frightening (reduction of the offer & alternatives, walled garden & silos, privacy ...)

Firefox OS is on the agenda - we are accelerated by Mozilla in SF :-)   -  but their OS is not mature enough to start to do something now.

Benjamin ANDRE - +33 (0)6 86 25 36 66 - Cozy.io

2013/12/10 Danny Knestaut <danny@knestaut.net>
Cool! Cozy looks promising. I like the Firefox OS integration. I've looked into jumping Android, but Firefox OS and ownCloud don't get along, and I need my phone to talk to my server. I'll have to give Cozy a try in the near future.


On 12/10/2013 05:40 AM, Benjamin ANDRE wrote:
"Anyone know of better solutions?"

We are working hard on Cozy so that it can be a good alternative to some of the tools you mentioned !
We are still in beta but we should release a stable versions of apps in january (we already released a stable version of the platform, the "snowden release" :-)

Benjamin ANDRE - +33 (0)6 86 25 36 66 - Cozy.io

2013/12/9 Danny Knestaut <danny@knestaut.net>
Yeah, I can't code or hear worth a damn, but I can write. If you want a blog post reviewing software, I can deliver. Especially if you need it from the point of view of someone who is not particularly tech savvy. If you want to give me a deadline and tell me who your target audience is, I'll do it.

I've replace Chrome with Firefox, and Google Search with DuckDuckGo. For Google Drive, Music, Picasa, Calendar, and Contacts, I dug an old desktop out of my closet and slapped on Ubuntu, OpenSSL, and ownCloud. I didn't care for ownCloud's Newsreader, so I installed Tiny Tiny RSS on my server and have been happy with that as a Reader replacement. To replace Documents, I've just fallen back to using FocusWriter and syncing the ODT files through ownCloud, though I hear live document editing is in version 6 of ownCloud, which hasn't worked itself down to the repo I'm on yet. I've replaced Google Plus with diaspora*. I looked into hosting my own diaspora* pod, but that required more expertise than I have, so I just use a community pod.

For my Chromebook, I used Luigi to replace Chrome OS with Linux Mint Xfce, and I've been very happy with that.

For Android, well, long story short, I reinstalled the OEM OS on both my phone and my tablet, but just hit SKIP when each asked for my Gmail address, and then hit SKIP again when they asked if I wanted to use Google Location Services. I then installed F-Droid and Aptoide to get some apps to interface with my server. It's not a perfect solution, but it's easy, and it required no rooting and ROMing, so I didn't have to brick a second phone.

For Gmail, I looked into rolling my own email server, but I gave up for three reasons. First, I don't know enough to get around my ISP's restrictions. I realize I could install an email server on a paid host, but the second reason is that I use email in a professional capacity. I need my email to work all the time, so I decided it's best left to the pros. As a result, I just pay for IMAP service from my registrar and leave it at that because the third reason I'm not bothering with my own email server is because I wish email would crawl away and die. It's cumbersome, insecure, and a pain in the butt. I'd like to use Bitmessage instead, but it's adoption is pretty small.

Where I'm having problems with self-hosting is task list management. The task list app in ownCloud just doesn't work for me. In it's place, I'm using a plain text file, a start-up script, an application called Remind, another called qToDotxt, and an Android app called Todo.txt Touch. It's a mess, and it's all tied together with Dropbox, which I'd like to get away from. After the holidays, I'll investigate a promising application called Taskwarrior to see if it can replace all this junk and kiss Dropbox goodbye.

I'm also having trouble replacing Evernote. Currently, I use an application called KeepNote, and sync all the KeepNote files through ownCloud, but it's not very elegant, and there is no Android counterpart, so I also end up using a lot of plain text files and emailing myself notes when I'm not in front of a proper computer.

Anyone know of better solutions?


On 12/09/2013 08:22 AM, Francis Irving wrote:

Whats the list of services you're using instead of Google ones?

Would love a writeup of what you're using and how good or bad you've found it!

Maybe a blog post for our blog once it starts? (should be soonishl

On 8 Dec 2013 23:21, "Danny Knestaut" <danny@knestaut.net> wrote:
My thanks to Redecentralize for spreading the cause, and for this list

Redecentralization became important to me personally when Google shut
down Reader. Until that day, I was a Chromebook-toting, Android-wielding
fanboy. Although Reader wasn't the first Google service pulled out from
under me, I vowed it would be the last one. I've since cancelled my
Google account and have replaced almost all of the Google services I
used with self-hosted solutions that I control.

I'm interested in learning about the various alternatives to
centralization, and I'm happy to share what little knowledge and
experience I've gleaned in trying to be decentralized.

Danny Knestaut
on diaspora* at: https://diasp.org/people/0cd83c244ac3303a
on Bitmessage at: BM-NBpoGQiAfM2NzHgQoCUY7snwDQ9C6L2A