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Anish Mangal [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] The next billion. A broken web. Social implications. 2015-09-17 21:02:50
Large school, does not allow internet access for children, though slow internet is available in the area a year or so ago. A content, and media server is present in the school. Now, faster internet is available, but the school admins don't want to enable internet because: - They claim /...\ heard stories that "somebody got on the internet and did X which resulted in Y" - They want to be able to curate the content their students have access to. - School principal is open to deploying technology and exploring new methods of learning. Currently they pay some money to a proprietary /...\ content vendor but they want to get out that deal gradually with the profusion of freely licensed, high quality learning content. Village community #2: - Small village, about 30-50 families spread over a mountain slope looking to setup a village network. - The person from the community with whom
Christian de Larrinaga [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] The next billion. A broken web. Social implications. 2015-09-17 17:36:01
Large school, does not allow internet access for children, though slow > internet is available in the area a year or so ago. A content, and media > server is present in the school. Now, faster internet is available, but > the school admins don't want to enable internet /...\ somebody got on the internet and did X which resulted in Y" > - They want to be able to curate the content their students have access to. > - School principal is open to deploying technology and exploring new > methods of learning. Currently they pay some money /...\ proprietary > content vendor but they want to get out that deal gradually with the > profusion of freely licensed, high quality learning content. > > Village community #2: > - Small village, about 30-50 families spread over a mountain slope > looking to setup a village network
Anish Mangal [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] The next billion. A broken web. Social implications. 2015-09-17 22:29:01
Large school, does not allow internet access for children, though slow > internet is available in the area a year or so ago. A content, and media > server is present in the school. Now, faster internet is available, but > the school admins don't want to enable internet /...\ stories that > "somebody got on the internet and did X which resulted in Y" > - They want to be able to curate the content their students have access to. > - School principal is open to deploying technology and exploring new > methods of learning. Currently they pay some money /...\ proprietary > content vendor but they want to get out that deal gradually with the > profusion of freely licensed, high quality learning content. > > Village community #2: > - Small village, about 30-50 families spread over a mountain slope > looking to setup a village network
Christian de Larrinaga [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] The next billion. A broken web. Social implications. 2015-09-17 18:26:32
school, does not allow internet access for children, though slow > > internet is available in the area a year or so ago. A content, and > media > > server is present in the school. Now, faster internet is > available, but > > the school admins /...\ somebody got on the internet and did X which resulted in Y" > > - They want to be able to curate the content their students have > access to. > > - School principal is open to deploying technology and exploring new > > methods of learning. Currently they /...\ some money to a proprietary > > content vendor but they want to get out that deal gradually with the > > profusion of freely licensed, high quality learning content. > > > > Village community #2: > > - Small village, about 30-50 families spread over a mountain slope
Robert Tischer [LibreList] RE: [redecentralize] Check out Hiveware's decentralized platform (as in no servers) 2015-09-02 13:49:55
repossess it if > some part of the payment fails? > Imagine the ability to sell someone a computer, and be able to remove contents from it that you deem inappropriate. That's exactly what Amazon did with books, what Apple does with its hardware, and what Lenovo does when /...\ software vendors have a say on what you can do with "your own", legally purchased items and "intellectual property". Digital contents pose different issues than physical objects, and certainly something must be done to enable content (and software) producers to receive fair payment for their work /...\ delivery. > But end-to-end delivery uses a multitude of servers and routers, so it's just not about who owns the content. The Internet infrastructure is not virtual and it actually costs a lot to companies who don't get a dime of royalty on your software
hellekin [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Check out Hiveware's decentralized platform (as in no servers) 2015-09-02 13:06:32
repossess > it if some part of the payment fails? > Imagine the ability to sell someone a computer, and be able to remove contents from it that you deem inappropriate. That's exactly what Amazon did with books, what Apple does with its hardware, and what Lenovo does when /...\ software vendors have a say on what you can do with "your own", legally purchased items and "intellectual property". Digital contents pose different issues than physical objects, and certainly something must be done to enable content (and software) producers to receive fair payment for their work /...\ delivery. > But end-to-end delivery uses a multitude of servers and routers, so it's just not about who owns the content. The Internet infrastructure is not virtual and it actually costs a lot to companies who don't get a dime of royalty on your software
Eric Mill [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Net Neutrality Ruling, Internet Interprets Censorship as Damage, There are no Captains, Decentralize Everything, etc. 2014-01-14 19:16:39
definitely becomes difficult to discriminate based on content, but the kind of problems a loss of net neutrality brings in would likely lead to discriminating based on the target domain name (e.g. deals with companies to favor their content), which encryption doesn't solve /...\ suitpossum blog (note that it is a blogger blog, maintained by Google), not because it is a blogger blog but because of its contents and its reference to 'Five Pillars of Open Source Finance,' which reminds me a bit of the Book of Five Rings, written by Musashi around
Robert Tischer [LibreList] RE: [redecentralize] Check out Hiveware's decentralized platform (as in no servers) 2015-09-02 11:05:11
surveillance and control. RT>I agree. But the Google, Twitter, and FB (NSA?) server farms don't have to be privy to the contents of the created material. 'A' who sends content to 'B' via a server 'S' where the content is 2048-bit end-to-end encrypted, still
Jörg F. Wittenberger [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization and deperimeterization 2014-09-06 08:53:52
your book-keeping example, Dominic's answer is better -- SSB isn't really perfect for that. But my contention is that a large part of any system is holding the participants accountable for their activity. If the users operate under identities within a WoT, you have a lot more /...\ question here: this seems to replicate data.  Does it protect against malicious updates too? It creates a verifiable log only -- the content of the messages is an application concern. We're looking at CRDTs to deal with convergence, but the systemic model for security is the reputation system. CRDT
Paul Frazee [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization and deperimeterization 2014-09-05 13:59:28
your book-keeping example, Dominic's answer is better -- SSB isn't really perfect for that. But my contention is that a large part of any system is holding the participants accountable for their activity. If the users operate under identities within a WoT, you have a lot more /...\ question here: this seems to replicate data.  Does it protect against malicious updates too? It creates a verifiable log only -- the content of the messages is an application concern. We're looking at CRDTs to deal with convergence, but the systemic model for security is the reputation system
feross [GG] Re: WebTorrent Desktop - open source streaming torrent client 2016-04-06 20:19:00
other torrent clients. You need to manually add torrents to the client. We don't want to make the client automatically download popular content, or seed it, or anything like that. The user should decide what to share since the content could be unencrypted and that's potentially dangerous
Daniel Maher [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Lantern anti-censorship tool 2014-08-18 14:45:21
routed through a web of trust. The stated goal is fairly plain: to help users in restrictive locales to access some known-censored content, and to do so through trusted nodes only. In principle there's nothing wrong with this model, and the software may indeed achieve that goal (given /...\ sites is an interesting element in the equation. It fits well within the narrow scope of their stated goal, but I worry about the content of that list - in particular, who manages it exactly? It would appear that there is an ironic opportunity for censorship at this layer. :/ -- dan (phrawzty
Adam Ierymenko [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization: "I want to believe." 2014-08-19 12:52:55
they also know how much data. But that’s all they know. They don’t know the protocol, the port, or the content of that data. They’re *pretty* blind. I have a suspicion it might be possible to do better than that, to make the blind /...\ touch of centralisation to solve a > problem. But if we take into account the importance of metadata > privacy as well as content privacy, I suspect that truly blind and > truly idiotic gods will be very hard to design. A god that knows > absolutely nothing
Michael Rogers [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization: "I want to believe." 2014-08-07 17:32:09
centralisation could help to make ZeroTier more usable, efficient and secure - I just don't think this paper does anything to support that contention. You mention split-brain and internet weather as problems ZeroTier should cope with, but I'm not sure centralisation will help to solve those problems /...\ need a touch of centralisation to solve a problem. But if we take into account the importance of metadata privacy as well as content privacy, I suspect that truly blind and truly idiotic gods will be very hard to design. A god that knows absolutely nothing can't contribute
Adam Ierymenko [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Net Neutrality Ruling, Internet Interprets Censorship as Damage, There are no Captains, Decentralize Everything, etc. 2014-01-14 13:50:40
suitpossum blog (note that it is a blogger blog, maintained by Google), not because it is a blogger blog but because of its contents and its reference to 'Five Pillars of Open Source Finance,' which reminds me a bit of the Book of Five Rings, written by Musashi around
Nicholas H.Tollervey [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Yesterday's London meet-up 2014-01-15 14:37:29
Hello Holger, Greetings Redecentralizers, Apologies for the tardy response time on my part, I wanted to do you the courtesy of thinking about the content of this email rather than simply dashing something off. Of course, with a young family, I have a chronic case of too-much
Nicholas H.Tollervey [LibreList] Redecentralize interview suggestion... 2013-12-09 16:30:40
MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Cory Doctorow - I didn't realise this but in 1999 he was one of the three people behind OpenCola (a P2P content sharing/searching product see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opencola_%28company%29). N. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSpfAuAAoJEP0qBPaYQbb6MBUIAI3nEi/VAyD88Xd8j9RyKHk4 K0o+cO+vCLgwVFQi6Zj4CZgOz/vupkZz
Anish Mangal [LibreList] Hello! 2015-09-02 22:02:28
working to foster grassroots learning and education in the remotest corners of the world. Right now our model of implementation is to have offline content-loaded servers hosted in schools and villages providing access to media and collaboration tools. If there is internet connectivity, the server becomes a gateway
juh [GG] Zeronet and Twister anyone 2016-04-06 22:31:00
blockchain Twitter alternative. http://twister.net.co/ Zeronet and Twister use implementations of the blockchain technology and Bittorrent to setup the netwerk and distribute the content. While Twister is limited to microblogging functionality Zeronet aims to setup all kind of services and websites. I would like to hear your comments
Anish Mangal [LibreList] The next billion. A broken web. Social implications. 2015-09-17 15:55:01
work with communities which are rural, often remote, and largely disconnected to the internet. At these places, access to CC-licensed or public domain content is provided to children (sometimes specifically in schools) and the larger community through village-spanning wifi networks (for an example, see [2][3]). Many times
Torbjörn Johnson [GG] A distributed CDN 2017-03-07 09:43:00
Hello Everyone,   Want to share with you the launch of a new distributed Content Distribution Network (CDN), primarily intended for video broadcast on demand. It's free to use (View) but requires registration to become a broadcaster. It scales to unlimited viewing hours for free! Broadcasters never upload
Jörg F. Wittenberger [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization: "I want to believe." 2014-08-03 11:31:11
transport plugin? What we need: A) Our identifiers are self-sealing.  That is, they are required to match some hash of the (initial) content and 4 more predefined meta data elements.  (We need this to prove their correctness; like in Ricardian Contracts etc.) So we'd need
Daniel Maher [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Blog lisbon? 2014-08-06 11:36:19
particularly interested if you'd be willing to do more coverage of remotestorage I'd be glad to contribute content pertaining to our efforts here in Paris too, if that would be acceptable to you. A straightforward PR is good enough ? I'll also add some info the wiki
Ross Jones [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Blog lisbon? 2014-08-06 11:17:35
particularly interested if you'd be willing to do more coverage of remotestorage > > I'd be glad to contribute content pertaining to our efforts here in > Paris too, if that would be acceptable to you. A straightforward PR is > good enough ? > > I'll also
Jörg F. Wittenberger [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Re: Trustworthy Contract Handling - Comparison Of Approaches 2014-08-07 11:31:57
signature is in these schemes hidden in the process: as a proof of integrity, we are interested in a hash over the object's content. This proof should hold even if the secret key was lost or published. > > An item stored in the DHT is a collection
Nicholas H.Tollervey [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Re: Trustworthy Contract Handling - Comparison Of Approaches 2014-08-15 17:46:37
these schemes hidden > in the process: as a proof of integrity, we are interested in a > hash over the object's content. This proof should hold even if the > secret key was lost or published. > The drogulus uses public key cryptography (RSA) for signing digital assets
Paul Frazee [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization and deperimeterization 2014-09-04 12:45:35
question here: this seems to replicate data.  Does it protect against malicious updates too? It creates a verifiable log only -- the content of the messages is an application concern. We're looking at CRDTs to deal with convergence, but the systemic model for security is the reputation system
Jörg F. Wittenberger [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization and deperimeterization 2014-09-05 14:13:39
question here: this seems to replicate data.  Does it protect against malicious updates too? It creates a verifiable log only -- the content of the messages is an application concern. We're looking at CRDTs to deal with convergence, but the systemic model for security is the reputation system. CRDT
Christian de Larrinaga [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] The next billion. A broken web. Social implications. 2015-09-17 12:07:38
communities which are rural, often remote, and largely disconnected to > the internet. At these places, access to CC-licensed or public domain > content is provided to children (sometimes specifically in schools) and > the larger community through village-spanning wifi networks (for an > example
Anish Mangal [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] The next billion. A broken web. Social implications. 2015-09-17 18:22:33
communities which are rural, often remote, and largely disconnected to > the internet. At these places, access to CC-licensed or public domain > content is provided to children (sometimes specifically in schools) and > the larger community through village-spanning wifi networks (for an > example
Francis Irving [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] "Old" but good article on "The Internet's Original Sin" 2015-08-25 16:25:23
start today! > > > > This all reminds me of Ted Nelson's "Project Xanadu" that (allegedly) > had such a content payment system built in. I believe Xanadu is over 50 > years old and still being worked upon by Ted and volunteers
Nicholas H.Tollervey [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] "Old" but good article on "The Internet's Original Sin" 2015-08-25 11:31:47
Paul Frazee [GG] Re: Zeronet and Twister anyone 2016-04-07 10:23:00
zeronet.readthedocs.org/en/latest/faq/#can-i-use-the-generated-site-addressprivate-key-to-accept-bitcoin-payments The sites are static-files hosted with bit-torrent. The sites are addressed by public keys, which are used to sign content manifests for the site. https://zeronet.readthedocs.org/en/latest/faq/#how-does-it-work Pretty simple to publish, you just create a directory, sign, and push it to the network https://zeronet.readthedocs.org/en/latest/using_zeronet/create_new_site/
Martin [GG] Re: Zeronet and Twister anyone 2016-04-09 06:40:00
database which is synchronized between the hosting peers. Quoting the documentation:  > ZeroNet counts with a built-in SQL database. This makes content-heavy site development easy. The DB is also synced with hosting nodes with incremental updates. This seems to work out well surprisingly. Didn't look
anishmg [GG] Re: Which decentralized products do you use day to day? 2016-07-14 07:06:00
also using SECN (Openwrt) Batman based mesh networking in the deployments I setup in rural places but still many things are centralized (name resolution, content serving, dhcp). Would love to make mesh networking truly decentralized
feross [GG] Re: A distributed CDN 2017-03-08 21:37:00
Torbjorn – c ool project. The hardest part of any initiative like this is to get user adoption. Why will the average content producer put their video on your site vs. YouTube which is easier and has all the viewers and name recognition? That's the hardest part
Christian de Larrinaga [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] The next billion. A broken web. Social implications. 2015-09-17 14:00:59
rural, often remote, and largely disconnected to > > the internet. At these places, access to CC-licensed or public domain > > content is provided to children (sometimes specifically in > schools) and > > the larger community through village-spanning wifi networks (for an > > example
Janislav Malahov [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] "Old" but good article on "The Internet's Original Sin" 2015-08-25 19:13:27
example and start today! > > > > This all reminds me of Ted Nelson's "Project Xanadu" that (allegedly) > had such a content payment system built in. I believe Xanadu is over 50 > years old and still being worked upon by Ted and volunteers
Eric Mill [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] What *else* are people doing with blockchains? 2014-01-02 12:02:15
like the idea of Bitcoin as a Mediawiki anti-spam plugin, mainly because of the possib ilities it hints at for micropayments (and online content business models!) with scriptable money. (Hope that didn't sound too Nathan Barley.) Sent from my mobile On 2 Jan 2014, at 15:41, Eric
Eric Mill [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] decentralization Yahoo group 2013-12-30 19:48:09
club. I think you can draw a pretty clear line between Google being *forced* to take a short term view -- as they watch indexable content disappear into closed networks, and fewer people wanting/needing to search as things get put in front of them via their networks -- and their deprioritization
Christian de Larrinaga [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] "Old" but good article on "The Internet's Original Sin" 2015-08-25 17:59:46
This all reminds me of Ted Nelson's "Project Xanadu" that (allegedly) >> had such a content payment system built in. I believe Xanadu is over 50 >> years old and still being worked upon by Ted and volunteers
Jonathan Deamer [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] What *else* are people doing with blockchains? 2014-01-02 16:21:10
really like the idea of Bitcoin as a Mediawiki anti-spam plugin, mainly because of the possibilities it hints at for micropayments (and online content business models!) with scriptable money. (Hope that didn't sound too Nathan Barley.) Sent from my mobile On 2 Jan 2014, at 15:41, Eric
Eric Mill [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] What *else* are people doing with blockchains? 2014-01-03 10:36:17
like the idea of Bitcoin as a Mediawiki anti-spam plugin, mainly because of the possib ilities it hints at for micropayments (and online content business models!) with scriptable money. (Hope that didn't sound too Nathan Barley.) Sent from my mobile On 2 Jan 2014, at 15:41, Eric
Ira [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello! 2015-09-07 08:47:29
working to foster grassroots learning and education in the remotest corners of the world. Right now our model of implementation is to have offline content-loaded servers hosted in schools and villages providing access to media and collaboration tools. If there is internet connectivity, the server becomes a gateway
vaX Cymaticka [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] "Old" but good article on "The Internet's Original Sin" 2015-08-25 14:40:51
start today! >>> >> This all reminds me of Ted Nelson's "Project Xanadu" that (allegedly) >> had such a content payment system built in. I believe Xanadu is over 50 >> years old and still being worked upon by Ted and volunteers
Francis Irving [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] "Old" but good article on "The Internet's Original Sin" 2015-08-25 21:12:46
start today! >>> >> This all reminds me of Ted Nelson's "Project Xanadu" that (allegedly) >> had such a content payment system built in. I believe Xanadu is over 50 >> years old and still being worked upon by Ted and volunteers
Odinn Cyberguerrilla [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Net Neutrality Ruling, Internet Interprets Censorship as Damage, There are no Captains, Decentralize Everything, etc. 2014-01-14 13:00:02
suitpossum blog (note that it is a blogger blog, maintained by Google), not because it is a blogger blog but because of its contents and its reference to 'Five Pillars of Open Source Finance,' which reminds me a bit of the Book of Five Rings, written by Musashi around
Eric Mill [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Net Neutrality Ruling, Internet Interprets Censorship as Damage, There are no Captains, Decentralize Everything, etc. 2014-01-14 16:27:31
suitpossum blog (note that it is a blogger blog, maintained by Google), not because it is a blogger blog but because of its contents and its reference to 'Five Pillars of Open Source Finance,' which reminds me a bit of the Book of Five Rings, written by Musashi around
Adam Ierymenko [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Net Neutrality Ruling, Internet Interprets Censorship as Damage, There are no Captains, Decentralize Everything, etc. 2014-01-14 13:39:30
suitpossum blog (note that it is a blogger blog, maintained by Google), not because it is a blogger blog but because of its contents and its reference to 'Five Pillars of Open Source Finance,' which reminds me a bit of the Book of Five Rings, written by Musashi around
Feross Aboukhadijeh [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Net Neutrality Ruling, Internet Interprets Censorship as Damage, There are no Captains, Decentralize Everything, etc. 2014-01-14 13:47:26
suitpossum blog (note that it is a blogger blog, maintained by Google), not because it is a blogger blog but because of its contents and its reference to 'Five Pillars of Open Source Finance,' which reminds me a bit of the Book of Five Rings, written by Musashi around