actual value to store. * timestamp - a UNIX
>> timestamp representing when the creator of the item thinks the
>> item was
created (so it's easy to work out the latest version of
>> an item given two candidates). * expires - a UNIX timestamp
>> beyond which
/...\ expire, be ignored and deleted in remote nodes. * name - a
>> meaningful name given by the creator for the key. *
created_with
>> - the version of the drogulus the creator used to generate the
>> item. * public_key - the creator's public
/...\ together with the hash of the actual value.
>
So the creator (via their public key) and time of creation are all
constituent in
creating the hash.
> Now if you take this hash as canonical identifier for the object,
> you can always proof it's integrity. See also
Paul Frazee [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Introduction 2014-01-06 13:53:30 netconf master" for the network and a random 24-bit ID. The netconf master is a node resposible for doing things like distributing configuration,
creating and signing authentication certificates for private network membership, and assigning IP addresses. This too runs the same code as regular clients plus a service located
/...\ arbitrary distributed LANs. There will be a few public wide-open ones that will be free for unlimited use, but you can also
create private distributed LANs. I plan to charge users to
create private distributed LANs that are administrated by ZeroTier's own servers... basically you're paying
/...\ manage and a nice web GUI to admin them. Nothing prevents you from running your own netconf-master but you'd have to
create your own mysql database and admin everything yourself and most commercial users don't want to do that.
(3) I actually view operational decentralization as being
Paul Frazee [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Introduction 2014-01-06 13:46:47 netconf master" for the network and a random 24-bit ID. The netconf master is a node resposible for doing things like distributing configuration,
creating and signing authentication certificates for private network membership, and assigning IP addresses. This too runs the same code as regular clients plus a service located
/...\ arbitrary distributed LANs. There will be a few public wide-open ones that will be free for unlimited use, but you can also
create private distributed LANs. I plan to charge users to
create private distributed LANs that are administrated by ZeroTier's own servers... basically you're paying
/...\ manage and a nice web GUI to admin them. Nothing prevents you from running your own netconf-master but you'd have to
create your own mysql database and admin everything yourself and most commercial users don't want to do that.
(3) I actually view operational decentralization as being
Adam Ierymenko [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Introduction 2014-01-06 11:40:41 netconf master" for the network and a random 24-bit ID. The netconf master is a node resposible for doing things like distributing configuration,
creating and signing authentication certificates for private network membership, and assigning IP addresses. This too runs the same code as regular clients plus a service located
/...\ arbitrary distributed LANs. There will be a few public wide-open ones that will be free for unlimited use, but you can also
create private distributed LANs. I plan to charge users to
create private distributed LANs that are administrated by ZeroTier's own servers... basically you're paying
/...\ manage and a nice web GUI to admin them. Nothing prevents you from running your own netconf-master but you'd have to
create your own mysql database and admin everything yourself and most commercial users don't want to do that.
(3) I actually view operational decentralization as being
Adam Ierymenko [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Introduction 2014-01-06 11:50:49 netconf master" for the network and a random 24-bit ID. The netconf master is a node resposible for doing things like distributing configuration,
creating and signing authentication certificates for private network membership, and assigning IP addresses. This too runs the same code as regular clients plus a service located
/...\ arbitrary distributed LANs. There will be a few public wide-open ones that will be free for unlimited use, but you can also
create private distributed LANs. I plan to charge users to
create private distributed LANs that are administrated by ZeroTier's own servers... basically you're paying
/...\ manage and a nice web GUI to admin them. Nothing prevents you from running your own netconf-master but you'd have to
create your own mysql database and admin everything yourself and most commercial users don't want to do that.
(3) I actually view operational decentralization as being
Adam Ierymenko [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Introduction 2014-01-06 10:51:29 arbitrary distributed LANs. There will be a few public wide-open ones that will be free for unlimited use, but you can also
create private distributed LANs. I plan to charge users to
create private distributed LANs that are administrated by ZeroTier's own servers... basically you're paying
/...\ manage and a nice web GUI to admin them. Nothing prevents you from running your own netconf-master but you'd have to
create your own mysql database and admin everything yourself and most commercial users don't want to do that. (3) I actually view operational decentralization as being
/...\ little value without the former. If nobody is developing peer to peer apps that really leverage an operationally decentralized network, then if we did
create a truly physically decentralized network there would be no "killer apps" for it. It wouldn't go anywhere. This is why one of my goals
Paul Frazee [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Introduction 2014-01-06 13:18:13 arbitrary distributed LANs. There will be a few public wide-open ones that will be free for unlimited use, but you can also
create private distributed LANs. I plan to charge users to
create private distributed LANs that are administrated by ZeroTier's own servers... basically you're paying
/...\ manage and a nice web GUI to admin them. Nothing prevents you from running your own netconf-master but you'd have to
create your own mysql database and admin everything yourself and most commercial users don't want to do that.
(3) I actually view operational decentralization as being
/...\ little value without the former. If nobody is developing peer to peer apps that really leverage an operationally decentralized network, then if we did
create a truly physically decentralized network there would be no "killer apps" for it. It wouldn't go anywhere.
This is why one of my goals
Detecting which nodes are malicious might not even be computable. It's the lack of verifiable information. Unless you have some trust anchors to
create a frame of reference you can never tell who is defecting vs. who is lying about others defecting. And as I think about
/...\ compute this? The solution most of the Internet uses is for real-world political entities (corporations, governments, etc.) to
create signing certificates. This is also the solution ZeroTier uses, more or less. Supernodes are designated as such because they're hard coded, which will soon be determined by a signing
/...\ more and more about hybrid systems where you've got multiple types of systems -- including both centralized and decentralized -- that back each other to
create an "antifragile" network. > The Bitcoin network solves the trust problem by essentially trusting itself. If someone successfully mounted a 51% attack against Bitcoin, nothing
malicious or by accident)
What you do have is crypto, and information processing powers many times greater
than when the property system was
created. Would it be possible to
create a system that enforced cooperation using just information?
I think this is possible, not just because there are computer systems
/...\ served Search & Gmail via a ZeroTierOne Earth
>> Address. I'd think they would again quickly be able to
create a rather
>> centralized traffic point within the network topology because of:
>
>
-- Richard D. Bartlett
Loomio co-founder rich@loomio.org
malicious or by accident)
What you do have is crypto, and information processing powers many times greater
than when the property system was
created. Would it be possible to
create a system that enforced cooperation using just information?
I think this is possible, not just because there are computer systems
/...\ suppose Google now served Search & Gmail via a ZeroTierOne Earth
>> Address. I'd think they would again quickly be able to
create a rather
>> centralized traffic point within the network topology because
What you do have is crypto, and information processing powers many times
>> greater
>> than when the property system was
created. Would it be possible to
>>
create a system that enforced cooperation using just information?
>>
>> I think this is possible
/...\ Search & Gmail via a ZeroTierOne Earth
>> >> Address. I'd think they would again quickly be able to
create a rather
>> >> centralized traffic point within the network topology because
sure I understand you completely. The public key is required
> in order for third parties to validate the signature (
created with the
> associated private key).
May I ask: why does it have to be that way?
Experience teaches that public/secret key schemes need to be change over
time
/...\ trivial distributed "Dropbox" clone built with fuse is one of
> my target "quick example" applications (a la "
create a blog" for web
> frameworks and "
create a todo list" for Javascript frameworks).
Want one? Takes a minute
On Aug 14, 2014, at 1:30 AM, David Geib < trustiosity.zrm@gmail.com > wrote: It
complex systems.
The inverse works too. Individually, spending money
makes you poorer. But if we *all* spend money, we get
(paradoxically) richer. We
create a lot more economic activity
which
creates many more opportunities and tends to inflate
things like wages in the long term.
So paying for stuff online
/...\ this list, I want to believe.
You focus on funding, it's
easier to monetize centralized services so
more venture capital is poured into
creating
them. The other post mentions technical
difficulties, distributed systems are hard and getting them to
work even when you trust each piece
just a well-known example. Got one question here: this seems to replicate data. Does it protect
against malicious updates too? It
creates a verifiable log only -- the content of the messages is an application concern. We're looking at CRDTs to deal with convergence, but the systemic
/...\ this:
* Every "wallet" is a (sqlite) database holding a balance table of two
columns: amount and currency. (Together with some user interface.)
* Users can
create orders (documents) to transfer some amount to some
other wallet. The receiver can either accept or reject.
(There is more, like maintaining nick names
/...\ small.)
For a larger world byzantine replication does not work, because it comes
at quadratic communication cost. Instead we would
create "virtual
banks": groups of individuals each running a peer and *contracted* (as
in "having signed a legal contract") to keep it mostly online and
prevent fraud
information processing powers many
>> >> times
>> >> greater
>> >> than when the property system was
created. Would it be possible to
>> >>
create a system that enforced cooperation using just information
/...\ Search & Gmail via a ZeroTierOne Earth
>> >> >> Address. I'd think they would again quickly be able to
create a
>> >> >> rather
>> >> >> centralized traffic point within the network topology because
What you do have is crypto, and information processing powers many times
>> greater
>> than when the property system was
created. Would it be possible to
>>
create a system that enforced cooperation using just information?
>>
>> I think this is possible
/...\ served Search & Gmail via a ZeroTierOne Earth
>> >> Address. I'd think they would again quickly be able to
create a rather
>> >> centralized traffic point within the network topology because
malicious or by accident)
What you do have is crypto, and information processing powers many times greater
than when the property system was
created. Would it be possible to
create a system that enforced cooperation using just information?
I think this is possible, not just because there are computer systems
/...\ served Search & Gmail via a ZeroTierOne Earth
>> Address. I'd think they would again quickly be able to
create a rather
>> centralized traffic point within the network topology because
complex systems. The inverse works too. Individually, spending money makes you poorer. But if we *all* spend money, we get (paradoxically) richer. We
create a lot more economic activity which
creates many more opportunities and tends to inflate things like wages in the long term. So paying for stuff online
/...\ this list, I want to believe. You focus on funding, it's easier to monetize centralized services so more venture capital is poured into
creating them. The other post mentions technical difficulties, distributed systems are hard and getting them to work even when you trust each piece
Francis Irving [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] RDC 15 2015-10-17 01:17:28 talented people coming so it
will be a great opportunity for everyone to learn and hear new ideas.
Decentralization is a big opportunity to
create positive societal change
in many areas and that is the reason I volunteered to help.
One
of my main interests is looking at ways
/...\ which we can
create news
publications that are controlled and edited by it's readers, that are
censorship proof, that remove bias from journalism and allows more
accurate and transparent dissemination of information to citizens. After
all, information and news are what allows us, as a society to make good
need to scale their ambition back, or find a good way to release usable chunks. You can't underestimate the resources it takes to
create a platform, and you can't waste time when you're 1) downstream of a platform that could eat you (the browsers) and 2) mixed
/...\ might already have heard of it. There is a new project
called Avatar [1] built by two finnish guys. It aims to
create a
distributed and secure P2P network which allows for messaging and data
storage, among others. In order to be able to run on as many platforms
software. To frame this conversation, let me assert this: "The Web became less  anti-fragile once hosting became more complex than creating marked-up documents." At that point, you couldn't easily distribute the hosting media, so end-users couldn't create redundant hosts, and the centralized hosting
need to scale
their ambition back, or find a good way to release usable
chunks. You can't underestimate the resources it takes to
create a platform,
+1, though i believe you wanted to say that you can't _over_estimate
the resources it takes. Underestimating is pretty simple
/...\ might already have heard of it. There is a new project
called Avatar [1] built by two finnish guys. It aims to
create a
distributed and secure P2P network which allows for
messaging and data
storage, among others. In order to be able to run on as many
platforms
physically not.
(Another - related - confusion might be interesting to readers looking
at it from a legal background: in such a network new objects are created
at all nodes running the creating application at the same time and
independently. Hence there is no such relationship like original vs.
copy
need to scale
their ambition back, or find a good way to release usable
chunks. You can't underestimate the resources it takes to
create a platform,
+1, though i believe you wanted to say that you can't _over_estimate
the resources it takes. Underestimating is pretty
/...\ might already have heard of it. There is a new project
called Avatar [1] built by two finnish guys. It aims to
create a
distributed and secure P2P network which allows for
messaging and data
storage, among others. In order to be able to run on as many
platforms
today's
Internet. And you can share it with responsibility and mutual respect
undergirded by interlocking software structures. This is what Hiveware does.
It
creates the potential for a new Internet where cooperative sharing can
take place while maintaining ownerships (there are many different kinds it
turns out). Imagine
/...\ agree. But the Google, Twitter, and FB (NSA?) server farms don't have
to be privy to the contents of the
created material. 'A' who sends content
to 'B' via a server 'S' where the content is 2048-bit end-to-end encrypted,
still creatively owns his digital item where
holger krekel [LibreList] any meeting point for tonight? 2015-10-16 08:18:38 talented people coming so it will be a great opportunity for everyone to learn and hear new ideas. Decentralization is a big opportunity to
create positive societal change in many areas and that is the reason I volunteered to help.
>
> One of my main interests is looking
/...\ ways in which we can
create news publications that are controlled and edited by it's readers, that are censorship proof, that remove bias from journalism and allows more accurate and transparent dissemination of information to citizens. After all, information and news are what allows us, as a society
physically not.
(Another - related - confusion might be interesting to readers looking
at it from a legal background: in such a network new objects are created
at all nodes running the creating application at the same time and
independently. Â Hence there is no such relationship like original vs.
copy
talented people coming so it
will be a great opportunity for everyone to learn and hear new ideas.
Decentralization is a big opportunity to
create positive societal change
in many areas and that is the reason I volunteered to help.
Â
One
of my main interests is looking
/...\ ways in which we can
create news
publications that are controlled and edited by it's readers, that are
censorship proof, that remove bias from journalism and allows more
accurate and transparent dissemination of information to citizens. After
all, information and news are what allows us, as a society
talented people coming so it
will be a great opportunity for everyone to learn and hear new ideas.
Decentralization is a big opportunity to
create positive societal change
in many areas and that is the reason I volunteered to help.
One
of my main interests is looking at ways
/...\ which we can
create news
publications that are controlled and edited by it's readers, that are
censorship proof, that remove bias from journalism and allows more
accurate and transparent dissemination of information to citizens. After
all, information and news are what allows us, as a society to make good
will.sch [LibreList] RDC 15 2015-10-15 13:25:28 talented people coming so it
will be a great opportunity for everyone to learn and hear new ideas.
Decentralization is a big opportunity to
create positive societal change
in many areas and that is the reason I volunteered to help. One
of my main interests is looking at ways
/...\ which we can
create news
publications that are controlled and edited by it's readers, that are
censorship proof, that remove bias from journalism and allows more
accurate and transparent dissemination of information to citizens. After
all, information and news are what allows us, as a society to make good
exactly, but close. CJDNS is a mesh protocol that creates a single L3 IPv6 network. ZeroTier One is a hybrid peer to peer protocol that creates virtual Ethernet networks (plural). ZeroTier is more like SDN for everyone, everywhere. (SDN is software defined networking, and refers to the creation of software
Adam Ierymenko < adam.ierymenko@zerotier.com > wrote:
Not exactly, but close. CJDNS is a mesh protocol that creates a single L3 IPv6 network. ZeroTier One is a hybrid peer to peer protocol that creates virtual Ethernet networks (plural). ZeroTier is more like SDN for everyone, everywhere. (SDN is software defined networking
Adam Ierymenko < adam.ierymenko@zerotier.com > wrote:
Not exactly, but close. CJDNS is a mesh protocol that creates a single L3 IPv6 network. ZeroTier One is a hybrid peer to peer protocol that creates virtual Ethernet networks (plural). ZeroTier is more like SDN for everyone, everywhere. (SDN is software defined networking
JSON object):
* value - the actual value to store.
* timestamp - a UNIX timestamp representing when the creator of the item
thinks the item was
created (so it's easy to work out the latest version
of an item given two candidates).
* expires - a UNIX timestamp beyond which the creator
/...\ would
like the item to expire, be ignored and deleted in remote nodes.
* name - a meaningful name given by the creator for the key.
*
created_with - the version of the drogulus the creator used to
generate the item.
* public_key - the creator's public key.
* key - the SHA-512 value
value - the actual value to store.
> * timestamp - a UNIX timestamp representing when the creator of the item
> thinks the item was
created (so it's easy to work out the latest version
> of an item given two candidates).
> * expires - a UNIX timestamp beyond which the creator
/...\ item to expire, be ignored and deleted in remote nodes.
> * name - a meaningful name given by the creator for the key.
> *
created_with - the version of the drogulus the creator used to
> generate the item.
> * public_key - the creator's public
processing power and solves the triangle by providing trust without centralization.
An interesting question is what might we use instead of computing power to
create a trust democracy that would allow the good guys to retain a majority. > This is basic to any relayed crypto peer to peer system
/...\ able to discover that path. So the attacker can dump traffic on the low-capacity honest paths to take them offline and then
create a bunch of Sybils to make discovering the higher-capacity paths more difficult, and you have no way to distinguish between the target legitimately being offline
What you do have is crypto, and information processing powers many times greater
> than when the property system was created. Would it be possible to
> create a system that enforced cooperation using just information?
>
> I think this is possible, not just because there are computer systems
After you've distributed identities, you need to distribute
> data-structures as well,
This would be the easy part. We just
create the data structures at all
commissioned peers simultaneously.
This requires a small computational overhead, but still way cheaper than
proof-of-work or some such
/...\ datasets need to be verifiable,
> so that Alice can rehost messages from Bob without possibly altering them.
If we did not fail when
creating the data at Bob's, Alice's and two more
(we should have at least four parties here for byzantine fault
tolerance), they will
wallet" is a (sqlite) database holding a balance table of two
columns: amount and currency. (Together with some user interface.)
* Users can
create orders (documents) to transfer some amount to some
other wallet. The receiver can either accept or reject.
(There is more, like maintaining nick names for wallets
/...\ receivers
notaries is too small.)
For a larger world byzantine replication does not work, because it comes
at quadratic communication cost. Instead we would
create "virtual
banks": groups of individuals each running a peer and *contracted* (as
in "having signed a legal contract") to keep
sqlite) database holding a balance table of two
> columns: amount and currency. (Together with some user interface.)
> * Users can
create orders (documents) to transfer some amount to some
> other wallet. The receiver can either accept or reject.
>
> (There is more, like maintaining nick names
/...\ small.)
>
> For a larger world byzantine replication does not work, because it comes
> at quadratic communication cost. Instead we would
create "virtual
> banks": groups of individuals each running a peer and *contracted* (as
> in "having signed a legal contract") to keep
warning (revoke the verification). That gives a more usable solution to "my account may have been hacked because it's sending weird emails" -- you
create a new account, call up your friends, and have them flag off the old account for a new one. (2) More generally, SSB can publish
/...\ schrieb Paul
Frazee:
Got
one question here: this seems to replicate data. Does it
protect
against malicious updates too?
It
creates a verifiable log only -- the content of the
messages is an application concern. We're looking at CRDTs
to deal with convergence, but the systemic model
sqlite) database holding a balance table of two
>> columns: amount and currency. (Together with some user interface.)
>> * Users can
create orders (documents) to transfer some amount to some
>> other wallet. The receiver can either accept or reject.
>>
>> (There is more
/...\ larger world byzantine replication does not work, because it comes
>> at quadratic communication cost. Instead we would
create "virtual
>> banks": groups of individuals each running a peer and *contracted* (as
>> in "having signed a legal contract") to keep it mostly
warning (revoke the verification). That gives a
more usable solution to "my account may have been hacked
because it's sending weird emails" -- you
create a new
account, call up your friends, and have them flag off the old
account for a new one.
Hm. I'd personally
/...\ schrieb Paul Frazee:
Got one question here: this
seems to replicate data. Does it protect
against malicious updates too?
It
creates a verifiable log only -- the
content of the messages is an application
concern. We're looking at CRDTs to deal with
convergence, but the systemic model for security
Jos Poortvliet [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] connecting 2015-09-17 08:09:46 that is an interesting point, yes. And with the .onion domain, one can be reached from the 'normal' web, too? Hey, I will
create an issue for this, but - please, the app is of course open, consider contributing some code towards this!
https://github.com/owncloud/proxy/issues/1
/...\ perfect way to phase out SSL business, while
> we're setting up the real GNU Internet. Downside: it
creates a SPoF
> that will become more interesting for FVEY to attack once every activist
> on Earth will give the finger to GoDaddy or StartSSL and switch
coming so it
> will be a great opportunity for everyone to learn and hear new ideas.
> Decentralization is a big opportunity to
create positive societal change
> in many areas and that is the reason I volunteered to help.
>>
>> One
> of my main
/...\ interests is looking at ways in which we can
create news
> publications that are controlled and edited by it's readers, that are
> censorship proof, that remove bias from journalism and allows more
> accurate and transparent dissemination of information to citizens.
> After all, information and news
Christian de Larrinaga [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] RDC 15 2015-10-16 13:38:46 talented people coming so it
will be a great opportunity for everyone to learn and hear new ideas.
Decentralization is a big opportunity to
create positive societal change
in many areas and that is the reason I volunteered to help. One
of my main interests is looking at ways
/...\ which we can
create news
publications that are controlled and edited by it's readers, that are
censorship proof, that remove bias from journalism and allows more
accurate and transparent dissemination of information to citizens. After
all, information and news are what allows us, as a society to make good
Tic Nticsebastian [LibreList] (no subject) 2014-05-28 00:08:52 time, came out to be bigger than I ever thought it could be. I need help. A lot of help. I want to create a new social network based on the open-source movement, secure(encrypted) and a decentralized way of building out a new internet that we so much
XMPP component.
A key part of Tiki Suite is to have a high level of integration
between the components. Thus, when you create a user in the ClearOS
user system (which is OpenLDAP), this login works for all apps:
Prosody & Jitsi, Tiki, Zarafa & Thunderbird, ActiveSync, OpenVPN, File
shares
hellekin [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] connecting 2015-09-16 16:15:21 solved.
>
Yep, LetsEncrypt FTW. The perfect way to phase out SSL business, while
we're setting up the real GNU Internet. Downside: it creates a SPoF
that will become more interesting for FVEY to attack once every activist
on Earth will give the finger to GoDaddy or StartSSL
using Matrix for communication? They have a really great product out there and if fits the redecentralizaion theme perfectly :) I'd love to create a redecentralization channel on our CloudFleet home server. cheers Christoph
Christoph Witzany [LibreList] Session Suggestion: Data Autonomy 2015-10-17 14:59:48 Silos Data Autonomy , the sovereignty of individuals over data about them gains importance with the amount of data that is created. Data Autonomy has two aspects, access and confidentially. Access is the possibility to know what data exists about us and to read it. This ability must be guarded against
your interest in creating equitable
systems that shift power to people and communities
has led you to develop a tech innovation that does
just that - please considering applying to Social
Tech Trust's new grant fund - Tech to Unite
Us!
We've been thinking about the
affordances of tech
more.
Excited about: hiring two new contributors to be directors on the
project, reincorporating as a non-profit, and working on new ideas to
create a truly innovative self-hosting experience that will blow
everyone's socks off :)
Jacob Cook <jacob@peakwinter.net>
https://peakwinter.net
On 25/04/14
Kiktron RAKO [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] 2014-05-27 23:24:13 time, came out to be bigger than I ever thought it could be. I need help. A lot of help. I want to create a new social network based on the open-source movement, secure(encrypted) and a decentralized way of building out a new internet that we so much
Benjamin ANDRE [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] 2014-05-28 00:20:46 time, came out to be bigger than I ever thought it could be. I need help. A lot of help. I want to create a new social network based on the open-source movement, secure(encrypted) and a decentralized way of building out a new internet that we so much
been living there for 20 yrs and is very concerned about the privacy
> implications of accessing the internet. He wants originally to create a
> local web and then enable internet access in a controlled fashion.
> - Is afraid of people uploading objectionable content which may pose
merged into a single program.
 By instead splitting Web applications into multiple programs using Web Workers, we can disentangle the hard dependencies created by a shared memory-space. Users can then change components at runtime by loading new programs.
Quick read, around 5 minutes. http://pfraze.github.io/2014/04/04/hosting-services-in-the-browser.html
Paul Frazee [GG] Re: Zeronet and Twister anyone 2016-04-07 10:23:00 addressed by public keys, which are used to sign content manifests for the site. https://zeronet.readthedocs.org/en/latest/faq/#how-does-it-work Pretty simple to publish, you just create a directory, sign, and push it to the network https://zeronet.readthedocs.org/en/latest/using_zeronet/create_new_site/ They have sample sites that actually look pretty good. And dynamic, hmm, how does
things. In the context of the Ladakh deployment, we are working with cultural organizations there and have them collaborate and share media which they create. Share, not initially with the world (that comes later), but with each other - for starters, and hope to provide a platform for the same
Dust] https://medium.com/@skynet.admin/things-i-learned-building-the-skynet-part-2-how-to-eat-dust-1a0c78a48fc7#.oc1bzbwcs I also just returned from teaching a few (local) folks in Spiti valley to create mesh networking, and if they want, set it up in their villages/communities. So far, it looks like it is being setup in a couple of villages in the valley
type of open peer-based corporation...
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/decentralization/conversations/messages/6908
The take home from my brief skim is that the forces of capitalism
creating revenue flow are what won it for centralization. Open stuff
is only used tactically (e.g. Google/Apple using the web to beat
Microsoft).
So yeah, new initiatives should
type of open peer-based corporation...
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/decentralization/conversations/messages/6908
The take home from my brief skim is that the forces of capitalism
creating revenue flow are what won it for centralization. Open stuff
is only used tactically (e.g. Google/Apple using the web to beat
Microsoft).
So yeah, new initiatives should
been living there for 20 yrs and is very concerned about the privacy
> implications of accessing the internet. He wants originally to create a
> local web and then enable internet access in a controlled fashion.
> - Is afraid of people uploading objectionable content which may pose
more and more about hybrid systems where you've got multiple types of systems -- including both centralized and decentralized -- that back each other to create an "antifragile" network.
That definitely seems like the way to go. Homogenous systems are inherently fragile because any attack that works against any part
this list, I want to believe. You focus on funding, it's easier to monetize centralized services so more venture capital is poured into creating them. The other post mentions technical difficulties, distributed systems are hard and getting them to work even when you trust each piece
Kiktron RAKO [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] 2014-06-06 16:04:20 time, came out to be bigger than I ever thought it could be. I need help. A lot of help. I want to create a new social network based on the open-source movement, secure(encrypted) and a decentralized way of building out a new internet that we so much
Jörg F. Wittenberger [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hosting services in the browser 2014-06-06 08:46:27 merged into
a single program.
By
instead splitting Web applications into
multiple programs using Web Workers, we
can disentangle the hard dependencies
created by a shared memory-space. Users
can then change components at runtime by
loading new programs.
Quick read, around 5 minutes.
http://pfraze.github.io/2014/04/04/hosting-services-in-the-browser.html
Be well
society (and the US government) has is due to technology shaping culture and norms. Building new things is one of the ways to create social change.
Just don't cast out the entire idea of laws. Now's the time to organize in all kinds of ways
there for 20 yrs and is very concerned about the
> privacy
> > implications of accessing the internet. He wants originally to
> create a
> > local web and then enable internet access in a controlled fashion.
> > - Is afraid of people uploading objectionable content which
software agents. The agent's code however is treated like a
contract: no change, no upgrade. The system starts actually by
creating a social contract holding all the code required to boot the
system. By analogy this would be the constitution and the body
decentralization.
But suppose Google now served Search & Gmail via a ZeroTierOne Earth
Address. I'd think they would again quickly be able to create a rather
centralized traffic point within the network topology because of:
1. Ownership: company control of the server, its code, resulting usage data,
screen space
suppose Google now served Search & Gmail via a ZeroTierOne Earth
> Address. I'd think they would again quickly be able to create a rather
> centralized traffic point within the network topology because of:
>
> 1. Ownership: company control of the server, its code, resulting usage data
society (and the US government) has is due to technology shaping culture and norms. Building new things is one of the ways to create social change.
Just don't cast out the entire idea of laws. Now's the time to organize in all kinds of ways
suppose Google now served Search & Gmail via a ZeroTierOne Earth
> Address. I'd think they would again quickly be able to create a rather
> centralized traffic point within the network topology because
society (and the US government) has is due to technology shaping culture and norms. Building new things is one of the ways to create social change.
Just don't cast out the entire idea of laws. Now's the time to organize in all kinds of ways
society (and the US government) has is due to technology shaping culture and norms. Building new things is one of the ways to create social change.
Just don't cast out the entire idea of laws. Now's the time to organize in all kinds of ways
society (and the US government) has is due to technology shaping culture and norms. Building new things is one of the ways to create social change.
Just don't cast out the entire idea of laws. Now's the time to organize in all kinds of ways
only pretty recently that Docker announced they can now run on any Linux distribution .
I will say that the learning curve on creating Docker containers is still a bit high for how conceptually simple (and beautiful!) Docker is. I was a little taken aback. But they acknowledge this fact
only pretty recently that Docker announced they can now run on any Linux distribution .
I will say that the learning curve on creating Docker containers is still a bit high for how conceptually simple (and beautiful!) Docker is. I was a little taken aback. But they acknowledge this fact
Feross Aboukhadijeh [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] decentralization Yahoo group 2013-12-30 18:29:36 groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/decentralization/conversations/messages/6908
> > > > The take home from my brief skim is that the forces of capitalism > > creating revenue flow are what won it for centralization. Open stuff > > is only used tactically (e.g. Google/Apple using the web to beat
> > Microsoft
suppose Google now served Search & Gmail via a ZeroTierOne Earth
> Address. I'd think they would again quickly be able to create a rather
> centralized traffic point within the network topology because of:
>
> 1. Ownership: company control of the server, its code, resulting usage data
/div>
<div>You focus on funding, it's easier to monetize centralized
services so more venture capital is poured into creating them.
The other post mentions technical difficulties, distributed
systems are <i>hard </i>and getting them to work even when
you trust
this list, I want to believe. You focus on funding, it's easier to monetize centralized services so more venture capital is poured into creating them. The other post mentions technical difficulties, distributed systems are hard and getting them to work even when you trust each piece
with social
impact
https://p2pmodels.eu/jobs/
Tweet thread:
https://twitter.com/samerP2P/status/1017822934222692352
Working at P2P Models is an opportunity to
collaborate with people passionate to create social
impact, in an environment which mixes academics,
hackers, designers and activists. We do research on
commons-oriented communities, and build
blockchain-driven frameworks
pragmatically, built on REST and WebDAV and TLS - no fancy global
distributed hashtable stuff (though we actually are looking into that to
create a global 'address book' for this). The plus side is of course that it
works today - you can already share between ownCloud instances
only pretty recently that Docker announced they can
now run on any Linux distribution .
I will say that the learning curve on creating Docker containers is still a bit high for how conceptually simple (and beautiful!) Docker is. I was a little taken aback. But they acknowledge this fact
open peer-based corporation...
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/decentralization/conversations/messages/6908
>
> The take home from my brief skim is that the forces of capitalism
> creating revenue flow are what won it for centralization. Open stuff
> is only used tactically (e.g. Google/Apple using the web to beat
> Microsoft
Knight Foundation and spend it on the good cause.
However we need your help to get it.
Our entry: https://www.newschallenge.org/challenge/2014/submissions/the-shadow-internet-a-censorship-free-communication-infrastructure
Please create an account at this website, upvote and discuss our entry!
We really could the funds for a few extra pair of hands in the team.
This
However we need your help to get it.
>>
>> Our entry:
>> https://www.newschallenge.org/challenge/2014/submissions/the-shadow-internet-a-censorship-free-communication-infrastructure
>>
>> Please create an account at this website, upvote and discuss our entry!
>> We really could the funds for a few extra pair of hands
However we need your help to get it.
>>
>> Our entry:
>> https://www.newschallenge.org/challenge/2014/submissions/the-shadow-internet-a-censorship-free-communication-infrastructure
>>
>> Please create an account at this website, upvote and discuss our entry!
>> We really could the funds for a few extra pair of hands
problem that needs fixing.
For example, there was a time when personal computers were truly personal. They ran applications that you acquired (or created) and used by and for yourself. You did not have to subscribe to them as services, and they did not require some company’s cloud
merged into a single program.
 By instead splitting Web applications into multiple programs using Web Workers, we can disentangle the hard dependencies created by a shared memory-space. Users can then change components at runtime by loading new programs.
Quick read, around 5 minutes. http://pfraze.github.io/2014/04/04/hosting-services-in-the-browser.html
merged into a single program.
 By instead splitting Web applications into multiple programs using Web Workers, we can disentangle the hard dependencies created by a shared memory-space. Users can then change components at runtime by loading new programs.
Quick read, around 5 minutes. http://pfraze.github.io/2014/04/04/hosting-services-in-the-browser.html
merged into a single program.
By instead splitting Web applications into multiple programs using Web Workers, we can disentangle the hard dependencies created by a shared memory-space. Users can then change components at runtime by loading new programs.
Quick read, around 5 minutes. http://pfraze.github.io/2014/04/04/hosting-services-in-the-browser.html
Be well
with has been living there for 20 yrs and is very concerned about the privacy implications of accessing the internet. He wants originally to create a local web and then enable internet access in a controlled fashion. - Is afraid of people uploading objectionable content which may pose a threat
schrieb Paul
Frazee:
Got
one question here: this seems to replicate data. Does it
protect
against malicious updates too?
It creates a verifiable log only -- the content of the
messages is an application concern. We're looking at CRDTs
to deal with convergence, but the systemic model for
security
maze@strahlungsfrei.de [LibreList] Avatar "operating system for the internet" 2014-02-02 17:46:44 might already have heard of it. There is a new project
called Avatar [1] built by two finnish guys. It aims to create a
distributed and secure P2P network which allows for messaging and data
storage, among others. In order to be able to run on as many platforms
P S [LibreList] First Person Technologies 2014-03-29 17:32:15 problem that needs fixing. For example, there was a time when personal computers were truly personal. They ran applications that you acquired (or created) and used by and for yourself. You did not have to subscribe to them as services, and they did not require some company’s cloud
Knight Foundation and spend it on the good cause.
However we need your help to get it.
Our entry: https://www.newschallenge.org/challenge/2014/submissions/the-shadow-internet-a-censorship-free-communication-infrastructure
Please create an account at this website, upvote and discuss our entry!
We really could the funds for a few extra pair of hands in the team.
This
Paul Frazee [LibreList] Hosting services in the browser 2014-04-06 14:21:43 merged into a single program.
 By instead splitting Web applications into multiple programs using Web Workers, we can disentangle the hard dependencies created by a shared memory-space. Users can then change components at runtime by loading new programs.
Quick read, around 5 minutes. http://pfraze.github.io/2014/04/04/hosting-services-in-the-browser.html