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Jan Kunkel [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello! 2013-12-10 15:34:56
your target audience is, >> I'll do >> it. >> >> I've replace Chrome with Firefox, and Google Search with DuckDuckGo. >> For >> Google Drive, Music, Picasa, Calendar, and Contacts, I dug an old >> desktop /...\ ownCloud, which hasn't worked itself down to the repo I'm on yet. >> I've >> replaced Google Plus with diaspora*. I looked into hosting my own >> diaspora* >> pod, but that required more expertise than I have, so I just /...\ when each asked for my Gmail >> address, and then hit SKIP again when they asked if I wanted to use >> Google >> Location Services. I then installed F-Droid and Aptoide to get some >> apps to >> interface with my server
Benjamin ANDRE [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello! 2013-12-10 17:36:48
give me a deadline and tell me who your target audience is, I'll do it. I've replace Chrome with Firefox, and Google Search with DuckDuckGo. For Google Drive, Music, Picasa, Calendar, and Contacts, I dug an old desktop out of my closet and slapped on Ubuntu, OpenSSL /...\ document editing is in version 6 of ownCloud, which hasn't worked itself down to the repo I'm on yet. I've replaced Google Plus with diaspora*. I looked into hosting my own diaspora* pod, but that required more expertise than I have, so I just use a community /...\ just hit SKIP when each asked for my Gmail address, and then hit SKIP again when they asked if I wanted to use Google Location Services. I then installed F-Droid and Aptoide to get some apps to interface with my server. It's not a perfect solution
Jan Kunkel [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello! 2013-12-11 22:18:27
Danny Knestaut [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello! 2013-12-09 14:15:09
give me a deadline and tell me who your target audience is, I'll do it. I've replace Chrome with Firefox, and Google Search with DuckDuckGo. For Google Drive, Music, Picasa, Calendar, and Contacts, I dug an old desktop out of my closet and slapped on Ubuntu, OpenSSL /...\ document editing is in version 6 of ownCloud, which hasn't worked itself down to the repo I'm on yet. I've replaced Google Plus with diaspora*. I looked into hosting my own diaspora* pod, but that required more expertise than I have, so I just use a community /...\ just hit SKIP when each asked for my Gmail address, and then hit SKIP again when they asked if I wanted to use Google Location Services. I then installed F-Droid and Aptoide to get some apps to interface with my server. It's not a perfect solution
Danny Knestaut [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello! 2013-12-10 10:16:04
give me a deadline and tell me who your target audience is, I'll do it. I've replace Chrome with Firefox, and Google Search with DuckDuckGo. For Google Drive, Music, Picasa, Calendar, and Contacts, I dug an old desktop out of my closet and slapped on Ubuntu, OpenSSL /...\ document editing is in version 6 of ownCloud, which hasn't worked itself down to the repo I'm on yet. I've replaced Google Plus with diaspora*. I looked into hosting my own diaspora* pod, but that required more expertise than I have, so I just use a community /...\ just hit SKIP when each asked for my Gmail address, and then hit SKIP again when they asked if I wanted to use Google Location Services. I then installed F-Droid and Aptoide to get some apps to interface with my server. It's not a perfect solution
Francis Irving [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello! 2013-12-10 01:52:00
deadline and tell > me who your target audience is, I'll do it. > > I've replace Chrome with Firefox, and Google Search with DuckDuckGo. > For Google Drive, Music, Picasa, Calendar, and Contacts, I dug an > old desktop out of my closet and slapped on Ubuntu /...\ editing is in version 6 of ownCloud, which hasn't > worked itself down to the repo I'm on yet. I've replaced Google Plus > with diaspora*. I looked into hosting my own diaspora* pod, but that > required more expertise than I have, so I just /...\ SKIP when each asked for > my Gmail address, and then hit SKIP again when they asked if I > wanted to use Google Location Services. I then installed F-Droid and > Aptoide to get some apps to interface with my server. It's not a > perfect solution
Benjamin ANDRE [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello! 2013-12-10 11:40:51
give me a deadline and tell me who your target audience is, I'll do it. I've replace Chrome with Firefox, and Google Search with DuckDuckGo. For Google Drive, Music, Picasa, Calendar, and Contacts, I dug an old desktop out of my closet and slapped on Ubuntu, OpenSSL /...\ document editing is in version 6 of ownCloud, which hasn't worked itself down to the repo I'm on yet. I've replaced Google Plus with diaspora*. I looked into hosting my own diaspora* pod, but that required more expertise than I have, so I just use a community /...\ just hit SKIP when each asked for my Gmail address, and then hit SKIP again when they asked if I wanted to use Google Location Services. I then installed F-Droid and Aptoide to get some apps to interface with my server. It's not a perfect solution
Nicholas H.Tollervey [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello! 2013-12-09 13:51:08
BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 A Pythonista buddy Tarek has written about de-Googling / de-Facebooking his life (he's works for Mozilla): http://ziade.org/2013/06/24/shutting-down-facebook-amp-google/ Maybe some interesting stuff in there... N. On 09/12/13 13:22, Francis Irving wrote: > Whats the list of services you're using /...\ instead of Google ones? > > Would love a writeup of what you're using and how good or bad > you've found it! > > Maybe a blog post for our blog once it starts? (should be soonishl > > On 8 Dec 2013 23:21, "Danny /...\ thanks to Redecentralize for spreading the cause, and for this > list serve. > > Redecentralization became important to me personally when Google > shut down Reader. Until that day, I was a Chromebook-toting, > Android-wielding fanboy. Although Reader wasn't the first Google > service pulled
Francis Irving [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello! 2013-12-09 13:22:03
Whats the list of services you're using instead of Google ones? Would love a writeup of what you're using and how good or bad you've found it! Maybe a blog post for our blog once it starts? (should be soonishl On 8 Dec 2013 23:21, "Danny /...\ danny@knestaut.net > wrote: My thanks to Redecentralize for spreading the cause, and for this list serve. Redecentralization became important to me personally when Google shut down Reader. Until that day, I was a Chromebook-toting, Android-wielding fanboy. Although Reader wasn't the first Google service pulled out from under /...\ vowed it would be the last one. I've since cancelled my Google account and have replaced almost all of the Google services I used with self-hosted solutions that I control. I'm interested in learning about the various alternatives to centralization, and I'm happy to share what
Danny Knestaut [LibreList] Hello! 2013-12-08 18:21:21
thanks to Redecentralize for spreading the cause, and for this list serve. Redecentralization became important to me personally when Google shut down Reader. Until that day, I was a Chromebook-toting, Android-wielding fanboy. Although Reader wasn't the first Google service pulled out from under me, I vowed /...\ would be the last one. I've since cancelled my Google account and have replaced almost all of the Google services I used with self-hosted solutions that I control. I'm interested in learning about the various alternatives to centralization, and I'm happy to share what little knowledge
Adrien [GG] Re: So centralized! 2016-04-06 23:26:00
06/04/2016 07:24, juh wrote:  > why did you change the list to Google? I also don't get it. The fact that there was an issue with librelist didn't force to turn to a Google Group which is no more than a mailing list /...\ remember, mailing lists have existed before Google and we could have asked dozens of persons who would have offered to host the redecentralize list for free and to take care that the previous issues encountered with librelist don't occur again. Am I right? Using Google
Robert Tischer [LibreList] RE: [redecentralize] Check out Hiveware's decentralized platform (as in no servers) 2015-09-02 11:05:11
haven't even written yet about linguistic meaning which takes a hit when data is copied away from its creator. This is why IMO Google Search will eventually fail. /RT> IMO technical decentralization needs to be accompanied by decentralized, collective forms of ownership as long as ownership /...\ determining category in our societies. Otherwise Google, Twitter, FB and the likes could claim to be decentralized because they operate large distributed CDNs and other technical decentralization techniques. Clearly, as soon as an entity commercially captures interactions between humans and their machines there is a centralization of power /...\ excellent point of surveillance and control. RT>I agree. But the Google, Twitter, and FB (NSA?) server farms don't have to be privy to the contents of the created material. 'A' who sends content to 'B' via a server 'S' where the content
Adam Ierymenko [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization: "I want to believe." 2014-08-19 12:52:55
Tsitsiklis/Xu were looking at was storage allocation in a distributed storage pool (or an idealized form of that problem). Their research was backed by Google, who obviously is very interested in storage allocation problems. But I don’t think it’s a monstrous leap to go from storage /...\ destroyed or the kittens will die. > It's true that nobody's been able to ship a decentralised alternative > to Facebook, Google, or Twitter. But that failure could be due to many > reasons. Who's going to buy stock in a blind-by-design internet > company /...\ gather meta-data, and by using encryption to make that meta-data less meaningful and transparent. There’s a big difference between Google or the NSA or the Russian Mob being able to know everything I’ve ever bought vs. them being able to know with some probability
Eric Mill [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] decentralization Yahoo group 2013-12-30 19:48:09
open, decentralized web because it's useful for the greatest number -- any corporation which is able to take a long term view (and Google has traditionally been pretty good at that) should find a way to make it useful to them. But closed is helpful as a short term club /...\ think you can draw a pretty clear line between Google being *forced* to take a short term view -- as they watch indexable content disappear into closed networks, and fewer people wanting/needing to search as things get put in front of them via their networks -- and their deprioritization of open /...\ technologies. See Eric Schmidt's display of righteous anger at Twitter blocking Google from indexing tweets. -- Eric On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Francis Irving < francis@flourish.org > wrote: This archive is pretty amazing. e.g. someone back in 2000 looking at the stack (in those days, Gnutella
ben [GG] Re: Public Money until tomorrow evening: 2016-04-10 14:54:00
nobody had a smartphone. In 8 years everybody will have his personal server. The convenience of having a lot of your data at Google is the frictionless experience and the relevance of personalized services. In your personal cloud you can go much further on those two axes since on your /...\ personal cloud you can aggregate safely much more data than Google will ever have : health, finance, center of interests... The services can thus be more relevant, more proactive, and more seamless. You will be able to choose the AI you want to plug on your Personal Cloud in order /...\ sustainable, especially for Europe since the centers of the internet are out of its boundaries. Institutions remain focused on building the "next Google", but when you look at the underground digital scene, what is striking is the vitality of decentralized technologies. The bitcoin being the most visible today
Adam Ierymenko [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization and deperimeterization 2014-09-02 12:35:23
hours of “black art” engineering to overcome. -Adam > Network routing is certainly one important aspect of decentralization. > But suppose Google now served Search & Gmail via a ZeroTierOne Earth > Address. I'd think they would again quickly be able to create a rather > centralized /...\ server (javascript/browsers), > allowing to reduce latency and to do code upgrades without > manual intervention on the client side. Just go to "google @ ZT1 earth" > and enjoy. > > 3. Sustainability: the resources (earned via ads, see above) to > invest into polishing the software
Jörg F. Wittenberger [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization and deperimeterization 2014-09-04 13:20:45
things if all the firewall/NAT cruft were out of the way. > Network routing is certainly one important aspect of decentralization. > But suppose Google now served Search & Gmail via a ZeroTierOne Earth > Address. I'd think they would again quickly be able to create a rather /...\ server (javascript/browsers), > allowing to reduce latency and to do code upgrades without > manual intervention on the client side. Just go to "google @ ZT1 earth" > and enjoy. Latency would be even better. Once download. Following requests are handled locally. > 3. Sustainability: the resources (earned
Adam Ierymenko [LibreList] Types of decentralization 2014-01-14 10:25:17
necessarily be politically or physically decentralized. (3) A meshnet would probably be the ultimate example here, but for an exclusive one I think Google's data center network would qualify. Google's systems are very physically redundant, so that would be an example of a system that is physically
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Michael Rogers [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization: "I want to believe." 2014-08-07 17:32:09
putting a crown on one of the nodes. It's true that nobody's been able to ship a decentralised alternative to Facebook, Google, or Twitter. But that failure could be due to many reasons. Who's going to buy stock in a blind-by-design internet company that /...\ evolution of such a system? All of these questions are easier to answer for infrastructure than for public-facing products and services. Facebook, Google and Twitter sit on top of several layers of mostly-decentralised infrastructure. Since you're building infrastructure, I wonder whether it would be more useful
holger krekel [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization and deperimeterization 2014-09-02 19:16:07
things if all the firewall/NAT cruft were out of the way. Network routing is certainly one important aspect of decentralization. But suppose Google now served Search & Gmail via a ZeroTierOne Earth Address. I'd think they would again quickly be able to create a rather centralized traffic point within /...\ from a server (javascript/browsers), allowing to reduce latency and to do code upgrades without manual intervention on the client side. Just go to "google @ ZT1 earth" and enjoy. 3. Sustainability: the resources (earned via ads, see above) to invest into polishing the software and the experience, allowing
Adrien [GG] Re: So centralized! 2016-04-07 09:07:00
open to the public. Anyway, if the members of this list are ready to switch to a mailing list which is not hosted by Google, we can find a person or an entity willing to host. Let me know if you want me to have it done (only a mailing /...\ list, no fancy stuff!). And sorry if I have hurt someone with my previous message, but yeah, I don't like Google. I know that it's difficult to live without them but at least concerning the mailing list, it is easy. Regards, Adrien
Dominic Tarr [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization and deperimeterization 2014-09-02 16:55:31
deploy. >> > >> >> Network routing is certainly one important aspect of decentralization. >> >> But suppose Google now served Search & Gmail via a ZeroTierOne Earth >> >> Address. I'd think they would again quickly be able to create
Dominic Tarr [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization and deperimeterization 2014-09-03 11:04:25
Network routing is certainly one important aspect of >> >> >> decentralization. >> >> >> But suppose Google now served Search & Gmail via a ZeroTierOne Earth >> >> >> Address. I'd think they would again quickly be able
Jörg F. Wittenberger [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization and deperimeterization 2014-09-06 08:53:52
maybe I prefer yahoo's interface? Well, tough luck. That's about the reason why I call for a division of duties. "Notaries" (like google, yahoo etc.) to "just run some code" (user interface, ensure invariants in databases etc-).  So the identity is a) independent of the notary
Michael Rogers [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization: "I want to believe." 2014-09-12 17:14:40
meta-data, and by using encryption to make that meta-data > less meaningful and transparent. There’s a big difference between > Google or the NSA or the Russian Mob being able to know everything > I’ve ever bought vs. them being able to know with
Ross Jones [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello ! 2013-12-08 21:43:29
paper for the french government about decentralization. They requested the advice of the "National Commission for the Digital Society" about the neutrality of "platforms" (=Google, Facebook, Apple ...). So I am preparing arguments explaining that "personal cloud" is a good way to influence the "neutrality of platforms" :-) The text will
Francis Irving [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello ! 2013-12-08 22:12:36
paper for the french government about decentralization. They requested the advice of the "National Commission for the Digital Society" about the neutrality of "platforms" (=Google, Facebook, Apple ...). So I am preparing arguments explaining that "personal cloud" is a good way to influence the "neutrality of platforms" :-) The text will
Benjamin ANDRE [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello ! 2013-12-09 00:08:01
french governmen t about decentralization. They requested the advice of the "National Commission for the Digital Society" about the neutrality of "platforms" (=Google, Facebook, Apple ...). So I am preparing arguments explaining that "personal cloud" is a good way to influence the "neutrality of platforms" :-) The text will be in french
Christian de Larrinaga [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] The next billion. A broken web. Social implications. 2015-09-17 12:07:38
whatever the XSCE project does, more people > are going to go online through Facebook's internet.org > <http://internet.org>, or google balloons etc.. So this is a fight worth > fighting. :-) > > Thoughts? > > [1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Community_Edition/FAQ > [2] > https://bhagmalpur.wordpress.com/2013/07/21/hello-world-from-bhagmalpur-part-1/
Benjamin ANDRE [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] who will be going to FLOSS4P2P? 2015-03-08 09:57:59
interoperable. We think that the decentralized tools will fail if they don't interoperate together. Without this interoperability, the basic user will stay with Google, Dropbox & co, for the sake of simplicity. See you there ! Le 08/03/2015 02:03, Nick B-T a écrit : -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED
Anish Mangal [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] The next billion. A broken web. Social implications. 2015-09-17 18:22:33
whatever the XSCE project does, more people > are going to go online through Facebook's internet.org > < http://internet.org >, or google balloons etc.. So this is a fight worth > fighting.  :-) > > Thoughts? > > [1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Community_Edition/FAQ
Christian de Larrinaga [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] The next billion. A broken web. Social implications. 2015-09-17 14:00:59
people > > are going to go online through Facebook's internet.org > <http://internet.org> > > <http://internet.org>, or google balloons etc.. So this is a fight > worth > > fighting. :-) > > > > Thoughts? > > > > [1] http://wiki.laptop.org
maze@strahlungsfrei.de [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Search Tech Talk 2015-10-17 01:08:30
least in Europe, a very monopolistic matter. I think it is one important task to build (decentralized, if possible) alternatives to Google search et al. This could be a very interesting talk to listen to, in my opinion.  So, a +1 from me. Would gladly attend your talk! Regards
Filipe Farinha [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] To go with my search talk yesterday 2015-10-18 15:07:05
terms of UX, latency is probably one of the biggest barriers to adoption with most p2p implementations of anything. I switched from Altavista to Google back in the early 2000s not because the results were more relevant, but because it was so much faster. Filipe Farinha On 18/10/2015
Benjamin ANDRE [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello ! 2013-12-09 00:40:42
paper for the french government about decentralization. They requested the advice of the "National Commission for the Digital Society" about the neutrality of "platforms" (=Google, Facebook, Apple ...). So I am preparing arguments explaining that "personal cloud" is a good way to influence the "neutrality of platforms" :-) The text will
Martin [GG] Re: Zeronet and Twister anyone 2016-04-09 06:45:00
want to know more about ZeroNet, I can also recommend this well-made presentation (hosted at Google..): https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1_2qK1IuOKJ51pgBvllZ9Yu7Au2l551t3XBgyTSvilew/ Am Donnerstag, 7. April 2016 19:23:04 UTC+2 schrieb Paul Frazee
Paul Frazee [GG] Re: So centralized! 2016-04-07 10:03:00
stick with Google. We all get copies of the email, and the archives are easy to find, and they probably won't sunset Groups any time soon. (Probably
holger krekel [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Check out Hiveware's decentralized platform (as in no servers) 2015-09-02 12:49:04
technical decentralization needs to be accompanied by decentralized, collective forms of ownership as long as ownership is a determining category in our societies. Otherwise Google, Twitter, FB and the likes could claim to be decentralized because they operate large distributed CDNs and other technical decentralization techniques. Clearly, as soon
Paul Frazee [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Net Neutrality Ruling, Internet Interprets Censorship as Damage, There are no Captains, Decentralize Everything, etc. 2014-01-14 14:38:21
doing.  And by we, I mean anyone using the internet. Many people use AT&T, or Verizon. Many people use Google and Facebook.  Or Weibo. Or VK.  Or... you get the picture.  But rather than harp about any one company
Odinn Cyberguerrilla [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Net Neutrality Ruling, Internet Interprets Censorship as Damage, There are no Captains, Decentralize Everything, etc. 2014-01-14 13:00:02
understood by anyone in primary school. I also like the suitpossum blog (note that it is a blogger blog, maintained by Google), not because it is a blogger blog but because of its contents and its reference to 'Five Pillars of Open Source Finance,' which reminds
Eric Mill [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Net Neutrality Ruling, Internet Interprets Censorship as Damage, There are no Captains, Decentralize Everything, etc. 2014-01-14 16:27:31
understood by anyone in primary school. I also like the suitpossum blog (note that it is a blogger blog, maintained by Google), not because it is a blogger blog but because of its contents and its reference to 'Five Pillars of Open Source Finance,' which reminds
Adam Ierymenko [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Net Neutrality Ruling, Internet Interprets Censorship as Damage, There are no Captains, Decentralize Everything, etc. 2014-01-14 13:39:30
understood by anyone in primary school. I also like the suitpossum blog (note that it is a blogger blog, maintained by Google), not because it is a blogger blog but because of its contents and its reference to 'Five Pillars of Open Source Finance,' which reminds
Feross Aboukhadijeh [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Net Neutrality Ruling, Internet Interprets Censorship as Damage, There are no Captains, Decentralize Everything, etc. 2014-01-14 13:47:26
understood by anyone in primary school. I also like the suitpossum blog (note that it is a blogger blog, maintained by Google), not because it is a blogger blog but because of its contents and its reference to 'Five Pillars of Open Source Finance,' which reminds
Adam Ierymenko [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Net Neutrality Ruling, Internet Interprets Censorship as Damage, There are no Captains, Decentralize Everything, etc. 2014-01-14 13:50:40
understood by anyone in primary school. I also like the suitpossum blog (note that it is a blogger blog, maintained by Google), not because it is a blogger blog but because of its contents and its reference to 'Five Pillars of Open Source Finance,' which reminds
Eric Mill [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Net Neutrality Ruling, Internet Interprets Censorship as Damage, There are no Captains, Decentralize Everything, etc. 2014-01-14 19:16:39
understood by anyone in primary school. I also like the suitpossum blog (note that it is a blogger blog, maintained by Google), not because it is a blogger blog but because of its contents and its reference to 'Five Pillars of Open Source Finance,' which reminds
juh [GG] Re: So centralized! 2016-04-05 22:24:00
change the list to Google? Were there issues with librelist
hellekin [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Check out Hiveware's decentralized platform (as in no servers) 2015-09-02 15:33:14
needed. The recent issue with GRSecurity patches demonstrates that proprietary vendors abuse the fact that source code is available without fee: but the fact Google, Apple, etc. avoid paying taxes demonstrates that solidarity is not built-in the economy: it's a voluntary contribution (when you have an army
Robert Tischer [LibreList] RE: [redecentralize] Check out Hiveware's decentralized platform (as in no servers) 2015-09-02 16:36:16
needed. The recent issue with GRSecurity patches demonstrates that proprietary vendors abuse the fact that source code is available without fee: but the fact Google, Apple, etc. avoid paying taxes demonstrates that solidarity is not built-in the economy: it's a voluntary contribution (when you have an army
Odinn Cyberguerrilla [LibreList] Net Neutrality Ruling, Internet Interprets Censorship as Damage, There are no Captains, Decentralize Everything, etc. 2014-01-14 12:14:11
could be doing. And by we, I mean anyone using the internet. Many people use AT&T, or Verizon. Many people use Google and Facebook. Or Weibo. Or VK. Or... you get the picture. But rather than harp about any one company (or licensing approach, or ruling
Benjamin ANDRE [LibreList] Hello ! 2013-12-08 22:26:36
paper for the french government about decentralization. They requested the advice of the "National Commission for the Digital Society" about the neutrality of "platforms" (=Google, Facebook, Apple ...). So I am preparing arguments explaining that "personal cloud" is a good way to influence the "neutrality of platforms" :-) The text will
Anish Mangal [LibreList] The next billion. A broken web. Social implications. 2015-09-17 15:55:01
correct. Regardless of my actions or whatever the XSCE project does, more people are going to go online through Facebook's internet.org , or google balloons etc.. So this is a fight worth fighting.  :-) Thoughts? [1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Community_Edition/FAQ [2] https://bhagmalpur.wordpress.com/2013/07/21/hello-world-from-bhagmalpur-part-1/ [3] https://bhagmalpur.wordpress.com/2013/07/27/hello-world-from-bhagmalpur-part-2/
frabcus [GG] Transcript volunteers 2016-10-17 02:25:00
simplest workflow is to just reply to group on this thread and say which one you're doing, then type it up in a Google Doc or as HTML. Then send the link to this thread, and one of us can make it into a PR to here: https://github.com
David Geib [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization and deperimeterization 2014-09-02 23:05:21
deploy. >> > >> >> Network routing is certainly one important aspect of decentralization. >> >> But suppose Google now served Search & Gmail via a ZeroTierOne Earth >> >> Address.  I'd think they would again quickly be able
Adam Ierymenko [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization and deperimeterization 2014-09-02 12:52:36
right now because it is too technically challenging to deploy. > Network routing is certainly one important aspect of decentralization. > But suppose Google now served Search & Gmail via a ZeroTierOne Earth > Address. I'd think they would again quickly be able to create a rather > centralized
Dominic Tarr [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization and deperimeterization 2014-09-02 14:44:40
because it is too technically challenging to deploy. > >> Network routing is certainly one important aspect of decentralization. >> But suppose Google now served Search & Gmail via a ZeroTierOne Earth >> Address. I'd think they would again quickly be able to create a rather
Richard D. Bartlett [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization and deperimeterization 2014-09-03 11:08:18
because it is too technically challenging to deploy. > >> Network routing is certainly one important aspect of decentralization. >> But suppose Google now served Search & Gmail via a ZeroTierOne Earth >> Address.  I'd think they would again quickly be able to create
Paul Frazee [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization and deperimeterization 2014-09-02 18:25:57
because it is too technically challenging to deploy. > >> Network routing is certainly one important aspect of decentralization. >> But suppose Google now served Search & Gmail via a ZeroTierOne Earth >> Address.  I'd think they would again quickly be able to create