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mempko [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] The Cloud's Shadow on Grass Computing 2015-04-03 18:11:20
about money. I also think you will have a more rich society as you described through the "paradox of thrift". It could be a government investment without government control. Most of the the tech we use today was funded by the government. Even todays VC investments would vanish instantly without /...\ government pumping money into the system. If we get funding without control, what could be better? In the meantime, how do we get people to pay for the tech? The free and almost free world that corporations push now is no help because people are not used to paying /...\ usually get more users (due to better user experience mostly) and make more money (for multiple reasons). The only alternative would be to have government fund all this stuff. I’m not sure how folks elsewhere feel, but I don’t trust the U.S. Federal Government more than
Dominic Tarr [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] on surveillance and decentralized crypto 2015-01-26 18:03:27
Brilliant point about governments persuing synchronised backdoor policies. This implies that to get one significant government to not implement backdoor legislation should force the rest to abandon that strategy. Another idea: governments require secure comms too - if not more so than individuals. Look at tor. Tor only works if anyone /...\ only the government could use tor, any tor use would obviously be government. Perhaps this is an argument for crypto that even the government can accept? Dominic On 25 Jan 2015 11:12, "holger krekel" < holger@merlinux.eu > wrote: Hi redecentralizers, I wrote down some current thoughts on the recent
Pierre Ozoux [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] The Cloud's Shadow on Grass Computing 2015-04-04 00:38:32
Adam Ierymenko [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Net Neutrality Ruling, Internet Interprets Censorship as Damage, There are no Captains, Decentralize Everything, etc. 2014-01-14 13:50:40
same time, we should keep working on the technology. After all, the strong belief in net neutrality that much of society (and the US government) has is due to technology shaping culture and norms. Building new things is one of the ways to create social change. Just don't cast /...\ should note that Microsoft (a company that I don't particularly like and am trying to migrate completely away from) characterizes the US government as an "advanced persistent threat." Regardless of how you think of (or personally define) meshnets, or Microsoft, or the US or any government a.k.a. corporation-state
Feross Aboukhadijeh [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Net Neutrality Ruling, Internet Interprets Censorship as Damage, There are no Captains, Decentralize Everything, etc. 2014-01-14 13:47:26
same time, we should keep working on the technology. After all, the strong belief in net neutrality that much of society (and the US government) has is due to technology shaping culture and norms. Building new things is one of the ways to create social change. Just don't cast /...\ should note that Microsoft (a company that I don't particularly like and am trying to migrate completely away from) characterizes the US government as an "advanced persistent threat." Regardless of how you think of (or personally define) meshnets, or Microsoft, or the US or any government a.k.a. corporation-state
Adam Ierymenko [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization: "I want to believe." 2014-08-13 21:04:47
only efficient way to recover if it *isn't* done before the attack begins. Another point on this... History has taught us that governments and very sophisticated criminals are often much more ahead of the game than we suspect they are. My guess is that if a genuine breakthrough /...\ agreement, etc. I think the harder thing is defending not against Sybils vs. the data itself but Sybils vs the infrastructure. Criminals, enemy governments, authoritarian governments, etc. might just want to take the network down, exploit it to carry out a DDOS amplification attack against other targets, or make
David Geib [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization: "I want to believe." 2014-08-14 04:30:54
communicate with "John Smith" tomorrow it's the same "John Smith" it was yesterday. > Another point on this... History has taught us that governments and very sophisticated criminals are often much more ahead of the game than we suspect they are. My guess is that if a genuine breakthrough /...\ contain Sybils. > I think the harder thing is defending not against Sybils vs. the data itself but Sybils vs the infrastructure. Criminals, enemy governments, authoritarian governments, etc. might just want to take the network down, exploit it to carry out a DDOS amplification attack against other targets, or make
Adam Ierymenko [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization: "I want to believe." 2014-08-19 12:22:38
On Aug 14, 2014, at 1:30 AM, David Geib < trustiosity.zrm@gmail.com > wrote: It
Eric Mill [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Net Neutrality Ruling, Internet Interprets Censorship as Damage, There are no Captains, Decentralize Everything, etc. 2014-01-14 19:16:39
same time, we should keep working on the technology. After all, the strong belief in net neutrality that much of society (and the US government) has is due to technology shaping culture and norms. Building new things is one of the ways to create social change. Just don't cast /...\ should note that Microsoft (a company that I don't particularly like and am trying to migrate completely away from) characterizes the US government as an "advanced persistent threat." Regardless of how you think of (or personally define) meshnets, or Microsoft, or the US or any government a.k.a. corporation-state
Eric Mill [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Net Neutrality Ruling, Internet Interprets Censorship as Damage, There are no Captains, Decentralize Everything, etc. 2014-01-14 16:27:31
same time, we should keep working on the technology. After all, the strong belief in net neutrality that much of society (and the US government) has is due to technology shaping culture and norms. Building new things is one of the ways to create social change. Just don't cast /...\ should note that Microsoft (a company that I don't particularly like and am trying to migrate completely away from) characterizes the US government as an "advanced persistent threat." Regardless of how you think of (or personally define) meshnets, or Microsoft, or the US or any government a.k.a. corporation-state
Adam Ierymenko [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Net Neutrality Ruling, Internet Interprets Censorship as Damage, There are no Captains, Decentralize Everything, etc. 2014-01-14 13:39:30
same time, we should keep working on the technology. After all, the strong belief in net neutrality that much of society (and the US government) has is due to technology shaping culture and norms. Building new things is one of the ways to create social change. Just don't cast /...\ should note that Microsoft (a company that I don't particularly like and am trying to migrate completely away from) characterizes the US government as an "advanced persistent threat." Regardless of how you think of (or personally define) meshnets, or Microsoft, or the US or any government a.k.a. corporation-state
Adam Ierymenko [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] The Cloud's Shadow on Grass Computing 2015-04-03 15:21:49
usually get more users (due to better user experience mostly) and make more money (for multiple reasons). The only alternative would be to have government fund all this stuff. I’m not sure how folks elsewhere feel, but I don’t trust the U.S. Federal Government more than
Adam Ierymenko [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] The Cloud's Shadow on Grass Computing 2015-04-03 15:31:53
usually get more users (due to better user experience mostly) and make more money (for multiple reasons). The only alternative would be to have government fund all this stuff. I’m not sure how folks elsewhere feel, but I don’t trust the U.S. Federal Government more than
Eric Mill [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] First Person Technologies 2014-03-30 15:00:08
that is being squeezed out of all of our technology from every side right now as it’s twisted into corporate-first and government-first.  We the people are being lost in the battle between those two trying to control and manage all technology and information flow. ... Anything /...\ clien t hardware, new client software. Big whoop. I’m a lot more worried about whose EULA is going to govern  my life . --- -- konklone.com | @konklone
Ximin Luo [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] First Person Technologies 2014-03-31 19:36:04
Thomas Levine [GG] Distributed Dance Party update 2018-06-18 23:34:00
time for   Camp Decentral's return- please get in touch if you have connections to   immigration lawyers or government officials who may be able to assist :)       And we've got three non-USA DDPs lined up for the Summer! Which /...\ d69a94dd-9eca-4eee-9b8c-4aa656bdea42]   Anarchaportugal will curate the most liberated minds in blockchain   technology, economics, governance philosophy, social sciences, machine   learning, science fiction, consciousness and biohacking. Blend in artists,   developers, wellness experts, students and designers as we chart the course
P S [LibreList] First Person Technologies 2014-03-29 17:32:15
that is being squeezed out of all of our technology from every side right now as it’s twisted into corporate-first and government-first.  We the people are being lost in the battle between those two trying to control and manage all technology and information flow. ... Anything /...\ client hardware, new client software. Big whoop. I’m a lot more worried about whose EULA is going to govern  my life
Odinn Cyberguerrilla [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Net Neutrality Ruling, Internet Interprets Censorship as Damage, There are no Captains, Decentralize Everything, etc. 2014-01-14 13:00:02
should note that Microsoft (a company that I don't particularly like and am trying to migrate completely away from) characterizes the US government as an "advanced persistent threat." Regardless of how you think of (or personally define) meshnets, or Microsoft, or the US or any government a.k.a
Benjamin ANDRE [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello ! 2013-12-09 00:08:01
contributing to two french projects. 1/ The white paper about platforms neutrality that I already introduced. This white paper is requested by the government to a commission of "digital wise guys" - the "CNNum" -, which is composed of about 20 persons, such as Tristan Nitot from Mozilla for instance /...\ Propositions for the french cloud industry. Cozy is a member of a commission led by OVH and ATOS in charge by the government to build a list of propositions to encourage the development of the french cloud industry. There are only 13 companies, so Cozy is quite proud
Jörg F. Wittenberger [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Re: Trustworthy Contract Handling - Comparison Of Approaches 2014-08-07 11:31:57
pointing to another (signed) object which holds the script code and important: human readable terms and conditions. The other object would be the contract governing the agents actions on incoming requests. No script object found: either no updates or locate script in the object itself. Now we need "trust
Robert Tischer [LibreList] RE: [redecentralize] Check out Hiveware's decentralized platform (as in no servers) 2015-09-02 11:05:11
owns his digital item where 'B' owns a legal copy of same. This is the conversation currently taking place between the public and the government's security agencies who want de-encryption backdoors always available. Once this debate resolves on encryptions side, the debate will naturally become
ben [GG] Re: Public Money until tomorrow evening: 2016-04-10 14:54:00
incomers to consolidate their position, whatever the price is. This imbalance leads to more and more tensions between these companies and governments (taxes, mass surveillance), competitors (abuse of dominating position) and users (less choice because of a less competitive market, information manipulation (one says B. Obama has been elected thanks
Bastien Guerry [LibreList] FLOSS4P2P: Call for Participation 2015-02-18 10:28:26
arrival of the celebrated Web 2.0, centralization and corporations proprietary platforms seem to have taken over. Moreover, this centralized structure is used by governments to increase surveillance (following Snowden’s revelations), to blackout internet whenever it is needed (e.g. Egypt, Syria, or San Francisco’s BART
Benjamin ANDRE [LibreList] Hello ! 2013-12-08 22:26:36
Hello to the mailing list of re-decentralize. I am currently writing a white paper for the french government about decentralization. They requested the advice of the "National Commission for the Digital Society" about the neutrality of "platforms" (=Google, Facebook, Apple ...). So I am preparing arguments explaining that "personal cloud
Christoph Witzany [LibreList] Session Suggestion: Data Autonomy 2015-10-17 14:59:48
told what data is collected about us. The Europe vs. Facebook case illustrated this problem very well, but arguably more data is collected by government actors. On the other hand we cannot access the data about us. Besides the obvious fact that we do not have access to data
Jörg F. Wittenberger [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization: "I want to believe." 2014-08-03 10:45:39
storing" (better now "maintaining") node to compute the update upon request. (Take the script as some kind of "contract" governing the update rules. No peer simply accepts updates, the check the contract to verify the update complies with the terms.) At this point the design
Benjamin ANDRE [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello ! 2013-12-09 00:40:42
Benjamin ANDRE < ben@cozycloud.cc > wrote: Hello to the mailing list of re-decentralize. I am currently writing a white paper for the french government about decentralization. They requested the advice of the "National Commission for the Digital Society" about the neutrality of "platforms" (=Google, Facebook, Apple
Adam Ierymenko [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization: "I want to believe." 2014-08-12 08:30:41
trust, and why, and how do you compute this? The solution most of the Internet uses is for real-world political entities (corporations, governments, etc.) to create signing certificates. This is also the solution ZeroTier uses, more or less. Supernodes are designated as such because they're hard coded, which
Nicholas H.Tollervey [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Re: Trustworthy Contract Handling - Comparison Of Approaches 2014-08-15 17:46:37
signed) object which holds the script code and important: human > readable terms and conditions. The other object would be the > contract governing the agents actions on incoming requests. No > script object found: either no updates or locate script in the > object itself
David Geib [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization: "I want to believe." 2014-08-20 00:56:27
Human societies are networks too. I think this work has po litical and philosophical implications inasmuch as the same information theoretic principles that govern computer networks might also operate in human ones. > If we can fix it here, maybe it can help us find new ways of fixing
Jörg F. Wittenberger [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization: "I want to believe." 2014-08-20 13:10:03
contracts etc. Let's not argue that we see them eventually failing all to often. Maybe we can make real societies better (i.e., the governments less broken) once we understood how to implement it with the rigor required in programming. So instead of inventing anything anew – which people would
David Burns [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization: "I want to believe." 2014-08-20 12:49:31
wrote: Human societies are networks too. I think this work has po litical and philosophical implications inasmuch as the same information theoretic principles that govern computer networks might also operate in human ones. If we can fix it here, maybe it can help us find new ways of fixing
Jörg F. Wittenberger [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization: "I want to believe." 2014-08-21 11:23:12
wrote: Human societies are networks too. I think this work has po litical and philosophical implications inasmuch as the same information theoretic principles that govern computer networks might also operate in human ones. If we can fix it here, maybe it can help us find new ways of fixing
Stephan Tual [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization: "I want to believe." 2014-08-22 14:41:22
Adam Ierymenko [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization: "I want to believe." 2014-08-22 13:51:28
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with
Stephan Tual [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization: "I want to believe." 2014-08-24 22:15:06
Ross Jones [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello ! 2013-12-08 21:43:29
Benjamin ANDRE < ben@CozyCloud.CC > wrote: Hello to the mailing list of re-decentralize. I am currently writing a white paper for the french government about decentralization. They requested the advice of the "National Commission for the Digital Society" about the neutrality of "platforms" (=Google, Facebook, Apple
Francis Irving [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello ! 2013-12-08 22:12:36
Benjamin ANDRE < ben@cozycloud.cc > wrote: Hello to the mailing list of re-decentralize. I am currently writing a white paper for the french government about decentralization. They requested the advice of the "National Commission for the Digital Society" about the neutrality of "platforms" (=Google, Facebook, Apple