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Eric Mill [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Net Neutrality Ruling, Internet Interprets Censorship as Damage, There are no Captains, Decentralize Everything, etc. 2014-01-14 19:16:39
definitely becomes difficult to discriminate based on content, but the kind of problems a loss of net neutrality brings in would likely lead to discriminating based on the target domain name (e.g. deals with companies to favor their content), which encryption doesn't solve /...\ make it technologically such that even if they win politically it will be costly or quixotic to implement a non-neutral net How would this work? Feross ✩  blog | ✎  studynotes | ☮  webtorrent /...\ wrote: One reason it's important to keep working on the technology is to remove the incentive for carriers (and others) to fight net neutrality. If we make it technologically such that even if they win politically it will be costly or quixotic to implement a non-neutral
Adam Ierymenko [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Net Neutrality Ruling, Internet Interprets Censorship as Damage, There are no Captains, Decentralize Everything, etc. 2014-01-14 13:50:40
make it technologically such that even if they win politically it will be costly or quixotic to implement a non-neutral net How would this work? Feross ✩  blog | ✎  studynotes | ☮  webtorrent On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Adam Ierymenko < adam.ierymenko@zerotier.com /...\ wrote: One reason it's important to keep working on the technology is to remove the incentive for carriers (and others) to fight net neutrality. If we make it technologically such that even if they win politically it will be costly or quixotic to implement a non-neutral /...\ legal system isn't fundamentally broken just because a legal event occurs you don't like. The Internet has been (roughly speaking) net neutral for decades now, because of legal mechanisms. Today's ruling can be reversed through legal mechanisms (for exampl e, by the FCC mustering the political will
Feross Aboukhadijeh [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Net Neutrality Ruling, Internet Interprets Censorship as Damage, There are no Captains, Decentralize Everything, etc. 2014-01-14 13:47:26
make it technologically such that even if they win politically it will be costly or quixotic to implement a non-neutral net How would this work? Feross ✩  blog | ✎  studynotes | ☮  webtorrent /...\ wrote: One reason it's important to keep working on the technology is to remove the incentive for carriers (and others) to fight net neutrality. If we make it technologically such that even if they win politically it will be costly or quixotic to implement a non-neutral /...\ legal system isn't fundamentally broken just because a legal event occurs you don't like. The Internet has been (roughly speaking) net neutral for decades now, because of legal mechanisms. Today's ruling can be reversed through legal mechanisms (for exampl e, by the FCC mustering the political will
Paul Frazee [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Net Neutrality Ruling, Internet Interprets Censorship as Damage, There are no Captains, Decentralize Everything, etc. 2014-01-14 14:38:21
dangerously inaccurate. For two, it's not what I'm here for. None of the software you mention even addresses net neutrality. You use "censorship" very vaguely, and your post mostly reads as an attempt to echo back the community's ideas. Anybody else /...\ this! or this. or that." (insert this or that here) cheers] Hello, As you are probably aware, there has been a net neutrality ruling from US courts and it essentially kills net neutrality. Reference (this is just one of many news outlets announcing this) http://gigaom.com/2014/01/14/breaking-court-strikes-down-fccs-net-neutrality-rules/?go_commented=1#comment-1388649 This is surely /...\ rely upon laws, need to use technical solutions to bypass what passes for government/corporation-state, etc.) but I have to say this net neutrality calls into stark contrast what we are doing with what we could be doing.  And by we, I mean anyone using the internet. Many people
Odinn Cyberguerrilla [LibreList] Net Neutrality Ruling, Internet Interprets Censorship as Damage, There are no Captains, Decentralize Everything, etc. 2014-01-14 12:14:11
this! or this. or that." (insert this or that here) cheers] Hello, As you are probably aware, there has been a net neutrality ruling from US courts and it essentially kills net neutrality. Reference (this is just one of many news outlets announcing this) http://gigaom.com/2014/01/14/breaking-court-strikes-down-fccs-net-neutrality-rules/?go_commented=1#comment-1388649 This /...\ rely upon laws, need to use technical solutions to bypass what passes for government/corporation-state, etc.) but I have to say this net neutrality calls into stark contrast what we are doing with what we could be doing. And by we, I mean anyone using the internet. Many people /...\ meetings / discussions with like-minded people, or hackerspaces, or development discussions, the answer is Almost Never. Anyway, this recent ruling announcement re. net neutrality (or its death) here in the USA is just one more example of how we cannot rely upon laws, at least in my view
Adam Ierymenko [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Net Neutrality Ruling, Internet Interprets Censorship as Damage, There are no Captains, Decentralize Everything, etc. 2014-01-14 13:39:30
reason it's important to keep working on the technology is to remove the incentive for carriers (and others) to fight net neutrality. If we make it technologically such that even if they win politically it will be costly or quixotic to implement a non-neutral net, we make them /...\ legal system isn't fundamentally broken just because a legal event occurs you don't like. The Internet has been (roughly speaking) net neutral for decades now, because of legal mechanisms. Today's ruling can be reversed through legal mechanisms (for example, by the FCC mustering the political will /...\ Internet works to make happen. At the same time, we should keep working on the technology. After all, the strong belief in net neutrality that much of society (and the US government) has is due to technology shaping culture and norms. Building new things is one of the ways
Benjamin ANDRE [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello ! 2013-12-09 00:08:01
nice ! In fact I am contributing to two french projects. 1/ The white paper about platforms neutrality that I already introduced. This white paper is requested by the government to a commission of "digital wise guys" - the "CNNum" -, which is composed of about 20 persons, such as Tristan Nitot from /...\ know some of them. So I want to convince them to include the personal cloud as a way to contribute to the neutrality of the platforms. For that, my contacts wihin the CNNum want me to write a paper so that I could present it to the commission /...\ white paper for the french governmen t about decentralization. They requested the advice of the "National Commission for the Digital Society" about the neutrality of "platforms" (=Google, Facebook, Apple ...). So I am preparing arguments explaining that "personal cloud" is a good way to influence the "neutrality of platforms" :-) The text
Francis Irving [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello ! 2013-12-08 22:12:36
writing a white paper for the french government about decentralization. They requested the advice of the "National Commission for the Digital Society" about the neutrality of "platforms" (=Google, Facebook, Apple ...). So I am preparing arguments explaining that "personal cloud" is a good way to influence the "neutrality of platforms
Ross Jones [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello ! 2013-12-08 21:43:29
writing a white paper for the french government about decentralization. They requested the advice of the "National Commission for the Digital Society" about the neutrality of "platforms" (=Google, Facebook, Apple ...). So I am preparing arguments explaining that "personal cloud" is a good way to influence the "neutrality of platforms
Benjamin ANDRE [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello ! 2013-12-09 00:40:42
writing a white paper for the french government about decentralization. They requested the advice of the "National Commission for the Digital Society" about the neutrality of "platforms" (=Google, Facebook, Apple ...). So I am preparing arguments explaining that "personal cloud" is a good way to influence the "neutrality of platforms
Benjamin ANDRE [LibreList] Hello ! 2013-12-08 22:26:36
writing a white paper for the french government about decentralization. They requested the advice of the "National Commission for the Digital Society" about the neutrality of "platforms" (=Google, Facebook, Apple ...). So I am preparing arguments explaining that "personal cloud" is a good way to influence the "neutrality of platforms
Eric Mill [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Net Neutrality Ruling, Internet Interprets Censorship as Damage, There are no Captains, Decentralize Everything, etc. 2014-01-14 16:27:31
legal system isn't fundamentally broken just because a legal event occurs you don't like. The Internet has been (roughly speaking) net neutral for decades now, because of legal mechanisms. Today's ruling can be reversed through legal mechanisms (for example, by the FCC mustering the political will /...\ Internet works to make happen. At the same time, we should keep working on the technology. After all, the strong belief in net neutrality that much of society (and the US government) has is due to technology shaping culture and norms. Building new things is one of the ways