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Nicholas H.Tollervey [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Re: Trustworthy Contract Handling - Comparison Of Approaches 2014-08-15 17:46:37
split. At this point the GET/PUT semantics are > no longer enough. We need some kind of custom, version control > alike check in script to be run to verify that the request is > permitted and complete for this object. It looks like a good idea > to have /...\ type property in the agent object pointing to another > (signed) object which holds the script code and important: human > readable terms and conditions. The other object would be the > contract governing the agents actions on incoming requests. No > script object found: either no updates or locate /...\ script in the > object itself. > > Now we need "trust but verify": since we must not allow any single > human to control the agent, we can not allow a single computer to > compute the update and then somehow copy the new state to other
Jörg F. Wittenberger [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Re: Trustworthy Contract Handling - Comparison Of Approaches 2014-08-07 11:31:57
purposefully split. At this point the GET/PUT semantics are no longer enough. We need some kind of custom, version control alike check in script to be run to verify that the request is permitted and complete for this object. It looks like a good idea to have a type property /...\ agent object pointing to another (signed) object which holds the script code and important: human readable terms and conditions. The other object would be the contract governing the agents actions on incoming requests. No script object found: either no updates or locate script in the object itself. Now we need /...\ proposed updates. Instead of blindingly accept any kind of update, those accept an update request and transform it into the actual update (or the script may reject the update for application defined reasons. So the script is run in a sandbox at each notary.) Let's care for a moment
Eric Mill [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Intros and current projects 2014-01-02 01:16:33
with a human summary , often within minutes of the posting.  This is a real simple model -- it's a small Ruby script -- but it's proven useful, and the account has become widely followed by people working and reporting on surveillance/privacy issues. Recently, I had an AP reporter /...\ condition that he cite @FISACourt. That was a dealbreaker for him, which, whatever, but I earnestly encouraged him to take the tiny Ruby script behind it and use it. Unfortunately, he was too technophobic to even hear my suggestion that he ask a developer inside /...\ tracker for him. But this is a very simple script, and it costs me practically nothing to run. And it's a better deal anyway: none of the free, centralized change detection services will check every 5 minutes for you. IFTTT won't even check an RSS feed
maze@strahlungsfrei.de [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Intros and current projects 2014-01-02 23:56:09
with a human summary, often within minutes of > the posting. > > This is a real simple model -- it's a small Ruby script -- but it's > proven useful, and the account has become widely followed by people > working and reporting on surveillance/privacy issues. > > Recently /...\ that he cite @FISACourt. That was a dealbreaker for > him, which, whatever, but I earnestly encouraged him to take the tiny > Ruby script behind it and use it. Unfortunately, he was too > technophobic to even hear my suggestion that he ask a developer > inside /...\ tracker for him. > > But this is a very simple script, and it costs me practically nothing > to run. And it's a better deal anyway: none of the free, centralized > change detection services will check every 5 minutes for you. IFTTT > won't even check
Jacob Cook [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Intros and current projects 2014-01-02 19:00:50
summary, often within minutes of the posting. >> >> This is a real simple model -- it's a small Ruby script -- but >> it's proven useful, and the account has become widely followed by >> people working and reporting on surveillance/privacy issues /...\ cite @FISACourt. That was a dealbreaker >> for him, which, whatever, but I earnestly encouraged him to take >> the tiny Ruby script behind it and use it. Unfortunately, he was >> too technophobic to even hear my suggestion that he ask a >> developer inside /...\ tracker for him. >> >> But this is a very simple script, and it costs me practically >> nothing to run. And it's a better deal anyway: none of the free, >> centralized change detection services will check every 5 minutes
Benjamin ANDRE [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Intros and current projects 2014-01-05 16:13:36
summary, often within minutes of the posting. >> >> This is a real simple model -- it's a small Ruby script -- but >> it's proven useful, and the account has become widely followed by >> people working and reporting on surveillance/privacy issues /...\ cite @FISACourt. That was a dealbreaker >> for him, which, whatever, but I earnestly encouraged him to take >> the tiny Ruby script behind it and use it. Unfortunately, he was >> too technophobic to even hear my suggestion that he ask a >> developer inside /...\ tracker for him. >> >> But this is a very simple script, and it costs me practically >> nothing to run. And it's a better deal anyway: none of the free, >> centralized change detection services will check every 5 minutes
Louise Ishka [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Intros and current projects 2014-01-03 08:38:06
summary, often within minutes of the posting. >> >> This is a real simple model -- it's a small Ruby script -- but >> it's proven useful, and the account has become widely followed by >> people working and reporting on surveillance/privacy issues /...\ cite @FISACourt. That was a dealbreaker >> for him, which, whatever, but I earnestly encouraged him to take >> the tiny Ruby script behind it and use it. Unfortunately, he was >> too technophobic to even hear my suggestion that he ask a >> developer inside /...\ tracker for him. >> >> But this is a very simple script, and it costs me practically >> nothing to run. And it's a better deal anyway: none of the free, >> centralized change detection services will check every 5 minutes
Eric Mill [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Intros and current projects 2014-01-02 21:58:22
summary, often within minutes of the posting. >> >> This is a real simple model -- it's a small Ruby script -- but >> it's proven useful, and the account has become widely followed by >> people working and reporting on surveillance/privacy issues /...\ cite @FISACourt. That was a dealbreaker >> for him, which, whatever, but I earnestly encouraged him to take >> the tiny Ruby script behind it and use it. Unfortunately, he was >> too technophobic to even hear my suggestion that he ask a >> developer inside /...\ tracker for him. >> >> But this is a very simple script, and it costs me practically >> nothing to run. And it's a better deal anyway: none of the free, >> centralized change detection services will check every 5 minutes
Jörg F. Wittenberger [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization: "I want to believe." 2014-08-03 10:45:39
ownership property of some coin or other unique resource. How to manage transfer? The update could be malicious.) Instead: link the value to some script, which is invoked as the "storing" (better now "maintaining") node to compute the update upon request. (Take the script as some /...\ terms.) At this point the design is down to a simple pointer stored with the first value pointing to a second value (the script, which in turn points to an update policy; since this is a contract chances are that no updates are allowed). All handling of keys, expiration time /...\ afraid there needs to be some compromise. That's too simple to be usable. How about allowing some kind of hashbang syntax in the script to pull the language of users choice to execute the update
Paul Frazee [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Applying User-Agent Behaviors in Web Applications to Enable Runtime Extension 2014-03-11 10:45:08
suspect that Askemos' protocols could be implemented in this extensions-architecture as a set of reltypes. It might be used to cluster multiple Worker scripts and remote services which all implement the same reltypes, but which are all written by different authors, in order to compare the integrity of their /...\ sounds correct. Though to be sure I'd have to understand your "reltypes" better. Plus: there has to be a way for those worker scripts to talk to each other while running at different peers/browsers.  Would this be supported?  Right now I'm not sure
Jörg F. Wittenberger [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Applying User-Agent Behaviors in Web Applications to Enable Runtime Extension 2014-03-11 11:15:55
suspect that Askemos' protocols could be implemented in this extensions-architecture as a set of reltypes. It might be used to cluster multiple Worker scripts and remote services which all implement the same reltypes, but which are all written by different authors, in order to compare the integrity of their /...\ sounds correct. Though to be sure I'd have to understand your "reltypes" better. Plus: there has to be a way for those worker scripts to talk to each other while running at different peers/browsers.  Would this be supported?  Right now I'm not sure how I would
Eric Mill [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hosting services in the browser 2014-04-06 15:58:45
upstream decisions. Because there is no process model in the application layer, there is no opportunity to reconfigure individual components in the software. The scripts are merged into a single program.   By instead splitting Web applications into multiple programs using Web Workers, we can disentangle the hard dependencies
Paul Frazee [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hosting services in the browser 2014-04-06 15:18:15
upstream decisions. Because there is no process model in the application layer, there is no opportunity to reconfigure individual components in the software. The scripts are merged into a single program.   By instead splitting Web applications into multiple programs using Web Workers, we can disentangle the hard dependencies
Adam Ierymenko [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hosting services in the browser 2014-04-07 09:23:31
upstream decisions. Because there is no process model in the application layer, there is no opportunity to reconfigure individual components in the software. The scripts are merged into a single program.   By instead splitting Web applications into multiple programs using Web Workers, we can disentangle the hard dependencies created
Paul Frazee [LibreList] Hosting services in the browser 2014-04-06 14:21:43
upstream decisions. Because there is no process model in the application layer, there is no opportunity to reconfigure individual components in the software. The scripts are merged into a single program.   By instead splitting Web applications into multiple programs using Web Workers, we can disentangle the hard dependencies
David Burns [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hosting services in the browser 2014-06-05 12:21:02
upstream decisions. Because there is no process model in the application layer, there is no opportunity to reconfigure individual components in the software. The scripts are merged into a single program.   By instead splitting Web applications into multiple programs using Web Workers, we can disentangle the hard dependencies
Adam Ierymenko [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization: "I want to believe." 2014-08-04 16:04:39
there needs to be some compromise. That's too simple to be > usable. How about allowing some kind of hashbang syntax in the script > to pull the language of users choice to execute the update? I agree... I just furnished it as an example to show that
Jörg F. Wittenberger [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization and deperimeterization 2014-09-04 13:20:45
showing ads which brings monetization. So: we need to replace servers by some service running at the users end of the wire. (Like some script running in browser's cache, secretly downloading missing components on demand from something akin to git.) Two effects: a) no more tracking (+) b) no money
ken Code [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] 2015-08-02 10:33:39
these blank emails now and just wanted you to know. You might get blacklisted if ur not careful, so be sure to check ur scripts etc. Let me know if u need anything, thanx :) ken <sig> ken Code Delegate & Crypto Coach http://BitShares-Munich.de http://youtube.com/BitSharesMunich-de
Danny Knestaut [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello! 2013-12-09 14:15:09
list app in ownCloud just doesn't work for me. In it's place, I'm using a plain text file, a start-up script, an application called Remind, another called qToDotxt, and an Android app called Todo.txt Touch. It's a mess, and it's all tied together with
will schiller [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] 2015-08-05 12:37:01
these blank emails now and just wanted you to know. You might get blacklisted if ur not careful, so be sure to check ur scripts etc. Let me know if u need anything, thanx :) ken <sig> ken Code Delegate & Crypto Coach http://BitShares-Munich.de http://youtube.com/BitSharesMunich-de
Francis Irving [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello! 2013-12-10 01:52:00
ownCloud just doesn't work for me. In it's > place, I'm using a plain text file, a start-up script, an > application called Remind, another called qToDotxt, and an Android > app called Todo.txt Touch. It's a mess, and it's all tied together
Benjamin ANDRE [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello! 2013-12-10 11:40:51
list app in ownCloud just doesn't work for me. In it's place, I'm using a plain text file, a start-up script, an application called Remind, another called qToDotxt, and an Android app called Todo.txt Touch. It's a mess, and it's all tied together with
Jan Kunkel [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello! 2013-12-10 15:34:56
just doesn't work for me. In it's place, >> I'm >> using a plain text file, a start-up script, an application called >> Remind, >> another called qToDotxt, and an Android app called Todo.txt Touch
Jan Kunkel [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello! 2013-12-11 22:18:27
Danny Knestaut [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello! 2013-12-10 10:16:04
list app in ownCloud just doesn't work for me. In it's place, I'm using a plain text file, a start-up script, an application called Remind, another called qToDotxt, and an Android app called Todo.txt Touch. It's a mess, and it's all tied together with
Benjamin ANDRE [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello! 2013-12-10 17:36:48
list app in ownCloud just doesn't work for me. In it's place, I'm using a plain text file, a start-up script, an application called Remind, another called qToDotxt, and an Android app called Todo.txt Touch. It's a mess, and it's all tied together with
Eric Mill [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] What *else* are people doing with blockchains? 2014-01-02 12:02:15
though it's not really taking advantage of the blockchain - you could implement the same strategy with USD, BTC is maybe just easier to script against. Using a blockchain model for electronic voting seems very interesting, it's a shame that it hasn't publicly advanced beyond iamsatoshi's rough
Eric Mill [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] What *else* are people doing with blockchains? 2014-01-03 10:36:17
though it's not really taking advantage of the blockchain - you could implement the same strategy with USD, BTC is maybe just easier to script against. Using a blockchain model for electronic voting seems very interesting, it's a shame that it hasn't publicly advanced beyond iamsatoshi's rough
Jörg F. Wittenberger [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hosting services in the browser 2014-06-06 08:46:27
upstream decisions. Because there is no process model in the application layer, there is no opportunity to reconfigure individual components in the software. The scripts are merged into a single program.   By instead splitting Web applications into multiple programs using Web Workers, we can disentangle the hard dependencies created
Paul Frazee [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Applying User-Agent Behaviors in Web Applications to Enable Runtime Extension 2014-03-10 11:51:10
suspect that Askemos' protocols could be implemented in this extensions-architecture as a set of reltypes. It might be used to cluster multiple Worker scripts and remote services which all implement the same reltypes, but which are all written by different authors, in order to compare the integrity of their