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Paul Frazee [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Applying User-Agent Behaviors in Web Applications to Enable Runtime Extension 2014-03-10 11:51:10
projects solve fairly different problems. Let me step through the Mint.com example to hopefully clarify the differences. Mint's application is hosted by remote servers which proxy to your bank's host servers. The details may have changed by now but, at one point, they asked for your username /...\ self-owned and self-administrated - however eventually left to the users judgment.) B) From (A) we conclude: there is no trust in any (remote) servers state. Goal: trustworthy applications, hence some application state we can reasonably assume/agree to be correct. Method: stolen from (modeled after) the legal system /...\ absolute truth.  Rely on judgment and witness. So Askemos is somewhat like the web with the servers removed.  (And not restricted to Web, though that's the easiest model to explain it). Instead of those servers, caches cooperate.  A group of "cache" nodes execute
Jörg F. Wittenberger [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Applying User-Agent Behaviors in Web Applications to Enable Runtime Extension 2014-03-10 14:51:13
self-owned and self-administrated - however eventually left to the users judgment.) B) From (A) we conclude: there is no trust in any (remote) servers state. Goal: trustworthy applications, hence some application state we can reasonably assume/agree to be correct. Method: stolen from (modeled after) the legal system /...\ absolute truth. Rely on judgment and witness. So Askemos is somewhat like the web with the servers removed. (And not restricted to Web, though that's the easiest model to explain it). Instead of those servers, caches cooperate. A group of "cache" nodes execute what traditional web apps /...\ server. However updates are coordinated among those nodes assigned to the app: they are only executed if the majority of assigned nodes agrees. That is all those nodes always audit each other. In this setting we are no longer forced to trust any single machine or operator. Malicious
Jörg F. Wittenberger [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] FireChat in Economist 2014-06-04 10:32:38
schrieb Paul Frazee: Multiple-server verification is a guard against untrusted peers, not closed source. That's the point.  People might not share their opinion regarding open source.  Still they might want at least some trust among each other /...\ Eric Mill < eric@konklone.com > wrote: I'm not sure how verifying the output of a server also verifies that the code running on a server is unmodified? Or am I misunderstanding? Which code exactly, two cases here: a) The whole code stack doing all the i/o, libraries, OS kernel /...\ server itself?      It doesn't verify the this code is unmodified.  Why should it?  How would one ever update? b) The dynamically code loaded MAY be (usually is) the output of the network itself.      So it's actually verified against
Paul Frazee [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Applying User-Agent Behaviors in Web Applications to Enable Runtime Extension 2014-03-11 10:45:08
Askemos used a "heartbeat" protocol in which ping messages need to be exchanged regularly, you'd write a spec for the client and the server and upload it at, say, askemos.org/rel/heartbeat . A server which follows the protocol would link to itself with `rel=" askemos.org/rel/heartbeat "`. A client which uses /...\ heart-beating servers would seek out that link, then (for instance, if this were the protocol:) subscribe to Server-Sent Events stream in order to receive the pings. The client can assume that subscription will work, otherwise the server is mis-implemented and should be avoided. For communicating between peers /...\ Just you're concerned with them at the client/browser side of the game, while we were looking at the service side (avoiding to say "server" here since it's yet another client/peer). Mint's application is hosted by remote servers which proxy to your bank's host servers. The details
Paul Frazee [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] FireChat in Economist 2014-06-03 10:17:33
Multiple-server verification is a guard against untrusted peers, not closed source. On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Eric Mill < eric@konklone.com > wrote: I'm not sure how verifying the output of a server also verifies that the code running on a server is unmodified /...\ being closed source completely rules it out from being part of the decentralized web. Agreed. Certainly, open source software that is hosted on a server can still be silently backdoored in some ways -- you can't generally verify that the server is running the same code that's in public /...\ leave data accessible to administrators anyways. To assess correctness of execution there is a proven way: one can always run the software at multiple server (or rather peers in that case) at the same time and have them audit each other. (I.e. each peer would almost
Steve Phillips [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization: "I want to believe." 2014-08-01 21:02:50
fantastic idea." 0. Suppose I'm trying to, say, send an IM over a maximally-decentralized IM network that uses a centralized zero-knowledge server for tracking the IPs and open port numbers of people or devices connected to said network, which chat clients somehow query so they know where /...\ should be sent. In this scenario, do you think it's possible for me to get this information without the server also getting it (by decrypting the IP/port pairs however I'd decrypt them), thereby eliminating the critical zero-knowledge aspect?  Is this the kind of system /...\ that serve as such a system, which we'd only write encrypted data to?  We could even have several of these servers, which perhaps exchange information with one another (simple DB replication?), in which case we'd have a federated  zero-knowledge system hosted by many
P S [LibreList] First Person Technologies 2014-03-29 17:32:15
Either way, no matter who wins out, it was never about the rendering. All four of these visions have one thing in common: the servers. It’s about who owns the servers. The servers that store your metrics. The servers that shout the ads. The servers that transmit your /...\ chat. The servers that geofence your every movement. It’s time to wake up to the fact that  you’re just another avatar in someone else’s MMO . Worse. From where they stand, all-powerful Big Data analysts that they are, you look an awful /...\ real race isn’t over the client — the glasses, watches, phones, or goggles. It’s over the  servers . It’s over the operating system. The one that understands countless layers of semantic tags upon every object on earth, the one that knows who to show
Eric Mill [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] First Person Technologies 2014-03-30 15:00:08
Either way, no matter who wins out, it was never about the rendering. All four of these visions have one thing in common: the servers. It’s about who owns the servers. The servers that store your metrics. The servers that shout the ads. The servers that transmit your /...\ chat. The servers that geofence your every movement. It’s time to wake up to the fact that  you’re just another avatar in someone else’s MMO . Worse. From where they stand, all-powerful Big Data analysts that they are, you look an awful /...\ real race isn’t over the client — the glasses, watches, phones, or goggles. It’s over the  servers . It’s over the operating system. The one that understands countless layers of semantic tags upon every object on earth, the one that knows who to show
Danny Knestaut [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello! 2013-12-10 10:16:04
looked into jumping Android, but Firefox OS and ownCloud don't get along, and I need my phone to talk to my server. I'll have to give Cozy a try in the near future. Danny On 12/10/2013 05:40 AM, Benjamin ANDRE wrote: "Anyone know of better solutions /...\ closet and slapped on Ubuntu, OpenSSL, and ownCloud. I didn't care for ownCloud's Newsreader, so I installed Tiny Tiny RSS on my server and have been happy with that as a Reader replacement. To replace Documents, I've just fallen back to using FocusWriter and syncing /...\ asked if I wanted to use Google Location Services. I then installed F-Droid and Aptoide to get some apps to interface with my server. It's not a perfect solution, but it's easy, and it required no rooting and ROMing, so I didn't have to brick
Eric Mill [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] FireChat in Economist 2014-06-03 10:35:02
sure how verifying the output of a server also verifies that the code running on a server is unmodified? Or am I misunderstanding? On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 2:29 AM, Jörg F. Wittenberger < Joerg.Wittenberger@softeyes.net > wrote: Am 02.06.2014 17:34, schrieb Eric Mill /...\ being closed source completely rules it out from being part of the decentralized web. Agreed. Certainly, open source software that is hosted on a server can still be silently backdoored in some ways -- you can't generally verify that the server is running the same code that's in public /...\ leave data accessible to administrators anyways. To assess correctness of execution there is a proven way: one can always run the software at multiple server (or rather peers in that case) at the same time and have them audit each other. (I.e. each peer would almost
Ximin Luo [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] First Person Technologies 2014-03-31 19:36:04
Benjamin ANDRE [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello! 2013-12-10 17:36:48
looked into jumping Android, but Firefox OS and ownCloud don't get along, and I need my phone to talk to my server. I'll have to give Cozy a try in the near future. Danny On 12/10/2013 05:40 AM, Benjamin ANDRE wrote: "Anyone know of better solutions /...\ closet and slapped on Ubuntu, OpenSSL, and ownCloud. I didn't care for ownCloud's Newsreader, so I installed Tiny Tiny RSS on my server and have been happy with that as a Reader replacement. To replace Documents, I've just fallen back to using FocusWriter and syncing /...\ asked if I wanted to use Google Location Services. I then installed F-Droid and Aptoide to get some apps to interface with my server. It's not a perfect solution, but it's easy, and it required no rooting and ROMing, so I didn't have to brick
Robert Tischer [LibreList] RE: [redecentralize] Check out Hiveware's decentralized platform (as in no servers) 2015-09-02 11:05:11
holger krekel Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 8:49 AM To: redecentralize@librelist.com Subject: Re: [redecentralize] Check out Hiveware's decentralized platform (as in no servers) On Wed, Sep 02, 2015 at 07:43 -0400, Robert Tischer wrote: > Redecentralizers: > > > > Please check out my decentralized /...\ centralization of power and an excellent point of surveillance and control. RT>I agree. But the Google, Twitter, and FB (NSA?) server farms don't have to be privy to the contents of the created material. 'A' who sends content to 'B' via a server 'S' where the content /...\ always available. Once this debate resolves on encryptions side, the debate will naturally become, "Why do I need to send data through a server?" Doesn't really make much sense if you can guarantee un-eaves-droppable end-to-end delivery. Servers can go back to being
Jan Kunkel [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello! 2013-12-11 22:18:27
Jan Kunkel [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello! 2013-12-10 15:34:56
ownCloud. I >> didn't >> care for ownCloud's Newsreader, so I installed Tiny Tiny RSS on my >> server >> and have been happy with that as a Reader replacement. To replace >> Documents, I've just fallen back to using FocusWriter /...\ Google >> Location Services. I then installed F-Droid and Aptoide to get some >> apps to >> interface with my server. It's not a perfect solution, but it's easy, >> and >> it required no rooting and ROMing, so I didn /...\ have to brick a second >> phone. >> >> For Gmail, I looked into rolling my own email server, but I gave up >> for >> three reasons. First, I don't know enough to get around my ISP's >> restrictions. I realize
Benjamin ANDRE [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello! 2013-12-10 11:40:51
closet and slapped on Ubuntu, OpenSSL, and ownCloud. I didn't care for ownCloud's Newsreader, so I installed Tiny Tiny RSS on my server and have been happy with that as a Reader replacement. To replace Documents, I've just fallen back to using FocusWriter and syncing /...\ asked if I wanted to use Google Location Services. I then installed F-Droid and Aptoide to get some apps to interface with my server. It's not a perfect solution, but it's easy, and it required no rooting and ROMing, so I didn't have to brick /...\ second phone. For Gmail, I looked into rolling my own email server, but I gave up for three reasons. First, I don't know enough to get around my ISP's restrictions. I realize I could install an email server on a paid host, but the second reason is that
Danny Knestaut [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello! 2013-12-09 14:15:09
closet and slapped on Ubuntu, OpenSSL, and ownCloud. I didn't care for ownCloud's Newsreader, so I installed Tiny Tiny RSS on my server and have been happy with that as a Reader replacement. To replace Documents, I've just fallen back to using FocusWriter and syncing /...\ asked if I wanted to use Google Location Services. I then installed F-Droid and Aptoide to get some apps to interface with my server. It's not a perfect solution, but it's easy, and it required no rooting and ROMing, so I didn't have to brick /...\ second phone. For Gmail, I looked into rolling my own email server, but I gave up for three reasons. First, I don't know enough to get around my ISP's restrictions. I realize I could install an email server on a paid host, but the second reason is that
Francis Irving [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello! 2013-12-10 01:52:00
slapped on Ubuntu, OpenSSL, and > ownCloud. I didn't care for ownCloud's Newsreader, so I installed > Tiny Tiny RSS on my server and have been happy with that as a Reader > replacement. To replace Documents, I've just fallen back to using > FocusWriter and syncing /...\ wanted to use Google Location Services. I then installed F-Droid and > Aptoide to get some apps to interface with my server. It's not a > perfect solution, but it's easy, and it required no rooting and > ROMing, so I didn't have to brick /...\ second phone. > > For Gmail, I looked into rolling my own email server, but I gave up > for three reasons. First, I don't know enough to get around my ISP's > restrictions. I realize I could install an email server on a paid > host
Paul Frazee [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Applying User-Agent Behaviors in Web Applications to Enable Runtime Extension 2014-03-09 09:25:35
Like an OS, the effectiveness will then rely on a well-designed permissions model. Regarding shared state, the client/server model is continued, and so server nodes still maintain state authority, but the user may change which servers are used. Likewise, the permission model is still origin-based, but it treats /...\ components of the app (page, remote hosts, worker plugins) as part of the network, and so origin is more granular. Servers may apply clustering algorithms to share state authority, and so (I suspect) Askemos' protocols should be applicable to them. Servers remain a network primitive for more complex topologies. Another /...\ question: how does this relates to autonomy > from hosting organizations? > > Towards this end we require active replication of the "server" end, such > that any peer may fail (with malice) any time harming at most itself. > > Best
holger krekel [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization and deperimeterization 2014-09-02 19:16:07
would again quickly be able to create a rather centralized traffic point within the network topology because of: 1. Ownership: company control of the server, its code, resulting usage data, screen space coming to attention of users, all useful for tracking and showing ads which brings monetization. 2. Easy Deployment /...\ current web technology makes it easy to control the client-side code from a server (javascript/browsers), allowing to reduce latency and to do code upgrades without manual intervention on the client side. Just go to "google @ ZT1 earth" and enjoy. 3. Sustainability: the resources (earned /...\ directional RSS reader apps? By bi-directional I mean a reader that is also a writer/publisher and that runs a little web server as a tray app or something… something very simple and built entirely on current open standards. > > Now take Facebook… is it that different
MikedePlume [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization: "I want to believe." 2014-08-20 12:04:36
might need very focused small communities. I can imagine a sort of federated facility, using something like Diaspora, where smallish groups can share a server, but servers can talk to each other in some limited way to allow for groups that overlap. Problems can then be resolved through side channels /...\ appropriate server management tools. (and a 'server' could be a collection of distributed nodes, of course) OK, that'll do from me. Thanks for listening. Mike
J. Ryan Stinnett [LibreList] Re: Sync/backup session was Re: [redecentralize] RDC 15 2015-10-16 07:00:59
Android phone? Thanks. Syncthing uses both local network discovery (broadcast / multicast depending on IPv4 vs. v6) and global discovery across networks with a discovery server. The global discovery server is something the Syncthing project hosts by default. If you are always on the same network though, you could just disable /...\ global discovery, since it's not needed there. If you do need global discovery but don't trust their server, you can also host it yourself[1]. The discovery server only exchanges devices addresses so they can each find other, no actual data is sent to it. Anyway, there
David Geib [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] snow: a new distributed secure virtual network 2014-07-04 15:27:01
Employees come up with hacky work-arounds that impair security just so they can do their jobs, like using some unauthenticated proxy or VPN server run by some anonymous third party. 2) App developers respond to everything but port 80 and 443 being blocked by running their non-HTTP /...\ over those ports and unnecessarily using a central server to connect two endpoints. Result: Central server becomes a single point of compromise for millions of users' communications. 3) Enterprise starts using DPI to actually verify that something on port 80 is HTTP to block the people running other apps /...\ Meanwhile in order to do DPI against HTTPS the enterprise has had to install CA certs on all the endpoints and establish a proxy server that actually has the CA private key on it *and* has all the traffic going through it, which gives one target an attacker can compromise
Adam Ierymenko [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] snow: a new distributed secure virtual network 2014-07-04 12:31:33
Employees come up with hacky work-arounds that impair security just so they can do their jobs, like using some unauthenticated proxy or VPN server run by some anonymous third party. 2) App developers respond to everything but port 80 and 443 being blocked by running their non-HTTP /...\ over those ports and unnecessarily using a central server to connect two endpoints. Result: Central server becomes a single point of compromise for millions of users' communications. 3) Enterprise starts using DPI to actually verify that something on port 80 is HTTP to block the people running other apps /...\ Meanwhile in order to do DPI against HTTPS the enterprise has had to install CA certs on all the endpoints and establish a proxy server that actually has the CA private key on it *and* has all the traffic going through it, which gives one target an attacker can compromise
Benjamin ANDRE [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Intros and current projects 2014-01-05 16:13:36
model of Easier Self-Hosting. I am working on Cozy Cloud. It aims at providing every one an abstraction layer on top of you server so that you can deploy your services by a simple click in the (open) "market place" (but you can deploy just by giving the github /...\ your app). From a technical point of view : Cozy is a "pPaaS" : a personal PaaS : a kind of Heroku but running on your server which will deploy your apps for you. (We forked Haibu released by Nodejitsu). For now we are only nodejs compatible, but it will change soon ! (especially /...\ working on the file synchronization so that you can sync your "files" (wich in fact are in your couchdb) with your server : dropbox on your server if you want, but the perspectives are much wider. It is both a long and short explanation : more details here : http://cozy.io/hack/getting-started/architecture-overview.html
Jörg F. Wittenberger [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] FireChat in Economist 2014-06-03 08:29:42
being closed source completely rules it out from being part of the decentralized web. Agreed. Certainly, open source software that is hosted on a server can still be silently backdoored in some ways -- you can't generally verify that the server is running the same code that's in public /...\ leave data accessible to administrators anyways. To assess correctness of execution there is a proven way: one can always run the software at multiple server (or rather peers in that case) at the same time and have them audit each other. (I.e. each peer would almost /...\ server, but check with the net whether the result is acceptable according the the underlying "smart contract". The check could be done via Bitcoin-alike block chains or using byzantine agreement.  Maybe other options I'm not aware of.) So far I only know of askemos.org doing
Benjamin ANDRE [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] 2014-05-28 00:20:46
projects seem quite complementary. Your are focused on the "low services" : hardware, network, Adblockers, Mesh wifi router, Email encryption device, NAS, Annonimization box, Tunnel servers, Selfhosting boxes, PayTV, Darknet addons, etc Cozy Cloud is focused on higher layers, we work at : deploying easily web apps on your server (we called /...\ personal PaaS, a mini heroku on your hardware if you want). sharing your data between your web apps (which are installed on your server) so that all your apps collaborate around your data (no silo). For now we lack social features, but we work on it with a techno called
Paul Frazee [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Introduction 2014-01-06 13:18:13
basically made the same tradeoffs. You need a central coordinator for WebRTC's signalling, so I'm running a public one, and then the server can be downloaded and self-administered for the super hard-core. I agree physical decentralization isn't important enough for most Web users to prioritize /...\ also create private distributed LANs. I plan to charge users to create private distributed LANs that are administrated by ZeroTier's own servers... basically you're paying for a reliable infrastructure that I manage and a nice web GUI to admin them. Nothing prevents you from running your own netconf /...\ goals with this project is to make p2p lateral communication easy on public virtual LANs. The fact that peers use a set of centralized servers to find each other is IMHO secondary... making lateral communication easy enables people to easily develop killer apps that want to talk laterally. Once these
Adam Ierymenko [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Introduction 2014-01-06 11:40:41
basically made the same tradeoffs. You need a central coordinator for WebRTC's signalling, so I'm running a public one, and then the server can be downloaded and self-administered for the super hard-core. I agree physical decentralization isn't important enough for most Web users to prioritize /...\ also create private distributed LANs. I plan to charge users to create private distributed LANs that are administrated by ZeroTier's own servers... basically you're paying for a reliable infrastructure that I manage and a nice web GUI to admin them. Nothing prevents you from running your own netconf /...\ goals with this project is to make p2p lateral communication easy on public virtual LANs. The fact that peers use a set of centralized servers to find each other is IMHO secondary... making lateral communication easy enables people to easily develop killer apps that want to talk laterally. Once these
Paul Frazee [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Introduction 2014-01-06 13:46:47
basically made the same tradeoffs. You need a central coordinator for WebRTC's signalling, so I'm running a public one, and then the server can be downloaded and self-administered for the super hard-core. I agree physical decentralization isn't important enough for most Web users to prioritize /...\ also create private distributed LANs. I plan to charge users to create private distributed LANs that are administrated by ZeroTier's own servers... basically you're paying for a reliable infrastructure that I manage and a nice web GUI to admin them. Nothing prevents you from running your own netconf /...\ goals with this project is to make p2p lateral communication easy on public virtual LANs. The fact that peers use a set of centralized servers to find each other is IMHO secondary... making lateral communication easy enables people to easily develop killer apps that want to talk laterally. Once these
Adam Ierymenko [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization and deperimeterization 2014-09-02 11:07:42
directional RSS reader apps? By bi-directional I mean a reader that is also a writer/publisher and that runs a little web server as a tray app or something… something very simple and built entirely on current open standards. Now take Facebook… is it that different /...\ with other software built upon others. IP and open standards like HTTP, JSON, XML, etc. are designed for heterogenous ecosystems of interoperable clients and servers. The idea with ZeroTier was to be, as I said in my secret RSS feed, “a complicated thing that gets /...\ feed, served off your laptop! Oh that was great fun. > > If my RSS reader (Newsblur) installed ZeroTier on all their servers, would I be able to use it to subscribe to this feed off of your laptop
Adam Ierymenko [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Introduction 2014-01-06 11:50:49
basically made the same tradeoffs. You need a central coordinator for WebRTC's signalling, so I'm running a public one, and then the server can be downloaded and self-administered for the super hard-core. I agree physical decentralization isn't important enough for most Web users to prioritize /...\ also create private distributed LANs. I plan to charge users to create private distributed LANs that are administrated by ZeroTier's own servers... basically you're paying for a reliable infrastructure that I manage and a nice web GUI to admin them. Nothing prevents you from running your own netconf /...\ goals with this project is to make p2p lateral communication easy on public virtual LANs. The fact that peers use a set of centralized servers to find each other is IMHO secondary... making lateral communication easy enables people to easily develop killer apps that want to talk laterally. Once these
Jörg F. Wittenberger [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization and deperimeterization 2014-09-04 13:20:45
able to create a rather > centralized traffic point within the network topology because of: > > 1. Ownership: company control of the server, its code, resulting usage data, > screen space coming to attention of users, all useful for tracking > and showing ads which brings monetization /...\ need to replace servers by some service running at the users end of the wire. (Like some script running in browser's cache, secretly downloading missing components on demand from something akin to git.) Two effects: a) no more tracking (+) b) no money from tracking (-). > 2. Easy Deployment: current /...\ technology makes it easy to control > the client-side code from a server (javascript/browsers), > allowing to reduce latency and to do code upgrades without > manual intervention on the client side. Just go to "google @ ZT1 earth" > and enjoy. Latency would be even better. Once
Paul Frazee [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Introduction 2014-01-06 13:53:30
basically made the same tradeoffs. You need a central coordinator for WebRTC's signalling, so I'm running a public one, and then the server can be downloaded and self-administered for the super hard-core. I agree physical decentralization isn't important enough for most Web users to prioritize /...\ also create private distributed LANs. I plan to charge users to create private distributed LANs that are administrated by ZeroTier's own servers... basically you're paying for a reliable infrastructure that I manage and a nice web GUI to admin them. Nothing prevents you from running your own netconf /...\ goals with this project is to make p2p lateral communication easy on public virtual LANs. The fact that peers use a set of centralized servers to find each other is IMHO secondary... making lateral communication easy enables people to easily develop killer apps that want to talk laterally. Once these
Kiktron RAKO [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] 2014-06-06 16:04:20
projects seem quite complementary. Your are focused on the "low services" : hardware, network, Adblockers, Mesh wifi router, Email encryption device, NAS, Annonimization box, Tunnel servers, Selfhosting boxes, PayTV, Darknet addons, etc Cozy Cloud is focused on higher layers, we work at : deploying easily web apps on your server (we called /...\ personal PaaS, a mini heroku on your hardware if you want). sharing your data between your web apps (which are installed on your server) so that all your apps collaborate around your data (no silo). For now we lack social features, but we work on it with a techno called
Robert Tischer [LibreList] RE: [redecentralize] Check out Hiveware's decentralized platform (as in no servers) 2015-09-02 13:49:55
hellekin Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 12:07 PM To: redecentralize@librelist.com Subject: Re: [redecentralize] Check out Hiveware's decentralized platform (as in no servers) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 09/02/2015 12:05 PM, Robert Tischer wrote: > > RT>"open source" for me is tantamount /...\ think limiting availability is a satisfactory way of doing so. > "Why do I need to send data through a server?" Doesn't really make > much sense if you can guarantee un-eaves-droppable end-to-end > delivery. > But end-to-end delivery uses /...\ multitude of servers and routers, so it's just not about who owns the content. The Internet infrastructure is not virtual and it actually costs a lot to companies who don't get a dime of royalty on your software. > meaning folk's notions of privacy and possession
Jörg F. Wittenberger [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Applying User-Agent Behaviors in Web Applications to Enable Runtime Extension 2014-03-11 11:15:55
Just you're concerned with them at the client/browser side of the game, while we were looking at the service side (avoiding to say "server" here since it's yet another client/peer). Mint's application is hosted by remote servers which proxy to your bank's host servers. The details
Anish Mangal [LibreList] Hello! 2015-09-02 22:02:28
list so here's a short introduction :) I am a free-software and open-education volunteer mainly working on the XSCE (short for School Server Community Edition) project. I've volunteered for the OLPC project from 2010-2014 and worked in the field in Paraguay and Uruguay, and helped develop /...\ foster grassroots learning and education in the remotest corners of the world. Right now our model of implementation is to have offline content-loaded servers hosted in schools and villages providing access to media and collaboration tools. If there is internet connectivity, the server becomes a gateway. We have pilots
Marc Laporte [LibreList] Tiki Suite - Server, Web, Desktop and Mobile suite 2014-06-26 21:53:55
Tiki Suite is a selection of Free / Libre / Open Source Software (FLOSS) server, web, mobile and desktop apps with a concerted focus on greater interoperability, security and adaptability, which is aimed at small & medium-sized organizations. The Tiki Suite is especially suited to decentralized and knowledge-centric organizations /...\ maintain full control of all your data, with Free / Libre / Open Source software (FLOSS). You can self-host on premise or on rented servers. It can be customized to your needs and we urge you to contribute to this community-driven and innovative project. This project was born /...\ just about any operating system. However, for Tiki Suite we have selected ClearOS for deeper & tighter integration. ClearOS is a cloud-connected Server, Network, and Gateway operating system designed for homes and distributed organizations. ClearOS is a central component of Tiki Suite and has a very large number
Ira [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello! 2015-09-07 08:47:29
list so here's a short introduction :) I am a free-software and open-education volunteer mainly working on the XSCE (short for School Server Community Edition) project. I've volunteered for the OLPC project from 2010-2014 and worked in the field in Paraguay and Uruguay, and helped develop /...\ foster grassroots learning and education in the remotest corners of the world. Right now our model of implementation is to have offline content-loaded servers hosted in schools and villages providing access to media and collaboration tools. If there is internet connectivity, the server becomes a gateway. We have pilots
Filipe Farinha [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] To go with my search talk yesterday 2015-10-18 15:07:05
much faster. Filipe Farinha On 18/10/2015 14:47, Francis Irving wrote: > "a very large project, requiring the cooperation of at least 5 servers" > is a great change! > > These days we often have 5 servers (small, virtual, on EC2) almost > whimsically just
Francis Irving [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] To go with my search talk yesterday 2015-10-18 07:47:07
change!   These days we often have 5 servers (small, virtual, on EC2) almost whimsically just on one small project...   On Sun, 18 Oct 2015, at 06:56 AM, Hugh Barnard wrote: Hi folks This: https://twitter.com/alicemazzy/status/655306196128280576 is what a web search engine hardware configuration looked like
Eric Mill [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] FireChat in Economist 2014-06-02 11:34:27
being closed source completely rules it out from being part of the decentralized web. Certainly, open source software that is hosted on a server can still be silently backdoored in some ways -- you can't generally verify that the server is running the same code that's in public source
Benjamin ANDRE [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Tell me decentralization news! 2014-04-24 23:27:58
thanks for the focus on this project, will be very interesting when we will include a mail server in Cozy ! Benjamin ANDRE - +33 (0)6 86 25 36 66 - Cozy.io 2014-04-23 15:52 GMT+02:00 Eric Mill < eric@konklone.com > : Josh Tauberer's Mail /...\ system for a self-hosted email server) made the semifinalist round of the Knight News Challenge on a healthier internet, one of 54 semifinalists out of 659 original entries. https://www.newschallenge.org/challenge/2014/submissions/mail-in-a-box Current code, which Josh has been using for 6 months:  https://github.com/JoshData/mailinabox
Steve Phillips [LibreList] Re: Sync/backup session was Re: [redecentralize] RDC 15 2015-10-15 23:36:19
Steve Phillips < steve@tryingtobeawesome.com > wrote: Syncthing offers no encryption at all, unfortunately; you have to trust the server storing your data.  I'd love for crypto to be added!  It's even written in Go, my fav programming language and the one I know /...\ best of my knowledge, syncthing provides TLS encryption for data on the wire, just not at rest. Syncthing does also does not require a 'server' per se, it seems that you you not have the desire or ability to run a client somewhere that is globally accessible on a 24/7
ben [GG] Re: Public Money until tomorrow evening: 2016-04-10 14:54:00
guys seems more powerful than ever, but the decentralization will naturally emerge. At Cozy Cloud we are developing a personal cloud, a personal server that anyone can have, self-hosted or hosted by a hosting company such as a bank, where he can aggregate all his data in order /...\ have more frictionless and relevant services. 8 years ago nobody had a smartphone. In 8 years everybody will have his personal server. The convenience of having a lot of your data at Google is the frictionless experience and the relevance of personalized services. In your personal cloud
Seth [LibreList] Re: Sync/backup session was Re: [redecentralize] RDC 15 2015-10-15 22:11:20
Steve Phillips [LibreList] Re: Sync/backup session was Re: [redecentralize] RDC 15 2015-10-15 21:08:34
Syncthing offers no encryption at all, unfortunately; you have to trust the server storing your data.  I'd love for crypto to be added!  It's even written in Go, my fav programming language and the one I know the best. I forgot to mention SparkleShare /...\ wasn't running the very latest version, but I installed it elsewhere and it worked pretty well, but it's not zero-knowledge; the server stores the original filenames in plain text.  It does require a TON of Mono dependencies, though, which I don't like. I need
Shannon Tyler Cunningham [GG] Re: (probably) the world's highest solar powered mesh network and offline media server setup 2016-09-09 04:32:00
idea was deployed in another Indian state, and there the model is commercial ... funds from the local administration went into the deployment of the server and network there. Me and a colleague are brainstorming ways right now to make this sustainable and scalable. In the context of the open source /...\ project (which is XSCE - School Server Community Edition) , it is a loose group of volunteers collaborating remotely, but working locally with a common technology base. There would be some NGOs, some companies, some individuals in the mix. Curious to know what you imply by NGO model. I am a strong
Francis Irving [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] "Old" but good article on "The Internet's Original Sin" 2015-08-25 21:12:46
effectively a client.   To control one's micro payments what you need is a peer connection service rather than a client to multiple server services as the web browser metaphor hoists on us.   All these browser extensions are doing is instituting lockin via browser vendors /...\ this. > > The thing stopping me making micropayments isn't if I have to pay 5% to > Visa or use a centralised server, it is that there is no interface for > doing micropayments. > > Anyone know how the W3C web payments process is getting
Anish Mangal [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] The next billion. A broken web. Social implications. 2015-09-17 21:02:50
community have within themselves (mostly motivation) to think this through. I *do* believe this is necessary in learning environments like schools where we deploy servers. So, what I am looking to answer is how to best address that motivation to learn about the internet. I do not claim /...\ does not allow internet access for children, though slow internet is available in the area a year or so ago. A content, and media server is present in the school. Now, faster internet is available, but the school admins don't want to enable internet because: - They claim they
Christian de Larrinaga [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] The next billion. A broken web. Social implications. 2015-09-17 17:36:01
within themselves > (mostly motivation) to think this through. I *do* believe this is > necessary in learning environments like schools where we deploy servers. > > So, what I am looking to answer is how to best address that motivation > to learn about the internet /...\ allow internet access for children, though slow > internet is available in the area a year or so ago. A content, and media > server is present in the school. Now, faster internet is available, but > the school admins don't want to enable internet because: > - They claim
Francis Irving [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] GNU Internet Stack / youbroketheinternet.org 2013-12-30 11:42:22
overladen with surveillance functionality > > such as cookies, invisible counters, e-tags and plenty of Javascript doing > > what the server tells it to. Now comes WebRTC which relies on web servers > > for authentication and thus enables them to run a man in the middle attack
Adam Ierymenko [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization and deperimeterization 2014-09-02 12:35:23
able to create a rather > centralized traffic point within the network topology because of: > > 1. Ownership: company control of the server, its code, resulting usage data, > screen space coming to attention of users, all useful for tracking > and showing ads which brings monetization /...\ Easy Deployment: current web technology makes it easy to control > the client-side code from a server (javascript/browsers), > allowing to reduce latency and to do code upgrades without > manual intervention on the client side. Just go to "google @ ZT1 earth" > and enjoy
Christian de Larrinaga [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] The next billion. A broken web. Social implications. 2015-09-17 18:26:32
mostly motivation) to think this through. I *do* believe this is > > necessary in learning environments like schools where we deploy > servers. > > > > So, what I am looking to answer is how to best address that motivation > > to learn about the internet /...\ children, though slow > > internet is available in the area a year or so ago. A content, and > media > > server is present in the school. Now, faster internet is > available, but > > the school admins don't want to enable internet because
vaX Cymaticka [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] "Old" but good article on "The Internet's Original Sin" 2015-08-25 14:40:51
only effectively a client. To control one's micro payments what you need is a peer connection service rather than a client to multiple server services as the web browser metaphor hoists on us. All these browser extensions are doing is instituting lockin via browser vendors. Go out and multiply /...\ this. > > The thing stopping me making micropayments isn't if I have to pay 5% to > Visa or use a centralised server, it is that there is no interface for > doing micropayments. > > Anyone know how the W3C web payments process is getting
Paul Frazee [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] GNU Internet Stack / youbroketheinternet.org 2013-12-29 21:46:31
Because the web browser is so overladen with surveillance functionality such as cookies, invisible counters, e-tags and plenty of Javascript doing what the server tells it to. Now comes WebRTC which relies on web servers for authentication and thus enables them to run a man in the middle attack
Paul Frazee [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] GNU Internet Stack / youbroketheinternet.org 2013-12-30 11:45:20
overladen with surveillance functionality > > such as cookies, invisible counters, e-tags and plenty of Javascript doing > > what the server tells it to. Now comes WebRTC which relies on web servers > > for authentication and thus enables them to run a man in the middle attack
Christian de Larrinaga [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] "Old" but good article on "The Internet's Original Sin" 2015-08-25 17:59:46
only effectively a client. To control one's micro payments what you need is a peer connection service rather than a client to multiple server services as the web browser metaphor hoists on us. All these browser extensions are doing is instituting lockin via browser vendors. Go out and multiply /...\ this. > > The thing stopping me making micropayments isn't if I have to pay 5% to > Visa or use a centralised server, it is that there is no interface for > doing micropayments. > > Anyone know how the W3C web payments process is getting
frabcus [GG] Which decentralized products do you use day to day? 2016-07-14 02:35:00
work or pleasure, regularly? Only one I'm using is Syncthing. And ironically I'm having to run a copy on my own personal server (i.e. a central server) to be sure all my clients (on phones and laptops) can get through whatever firewalls they're behind. What
Torbjörn Johnson [GG] A distributed CDN 2017-03-07 09:43:00
requires registration to become a broadcaster. It scales to unlimited viewing hours for free! Broadcasters never upload to any central and expensive video server but use their own server or Mac to broadcast. Take a look at: www.fairsharemediaworld.se (Beta) It uses Webtorrent (Thanks Feross and Diego!) to avoid the download
Paul Frazee [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] ZeroTier One public beta (binaries) for Macintosh and Linux 2014-02-13 13:00:12
right now on a Linux cloud server or in a Linux VM if you want. Ah, of course. I'll probably do that to preserve my native configuration as well. I'll let you know how it goes. Paul F On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Adam /...\ testing and let auto-update run several times in various VMs. You can try it right now on a Linux cloud server or in a Linux VM if you want. BTW, Windows 7 and 8 will be supported. Vista will probably work too but I'm not sure
Anish Mangal [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] The next billion. A broken web. Social implications. 2015-09-17 22:29:01
within themselves > (mostly motivation) to think this through. I *do* believe this is > necessary in learning environments like schools where we deploy servers. > > So, what I am looking to answer is how to best address that motivation > to learn about the internet /...\ allow internet access for children, though slow > internet is available in the area a year or so ago. A content, and media > server is present in the school. Now, faster internet is available, but > the school admins don't want to enable internet because: > - They claim
hellekin [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Check out Hiveware's decentralized platform (as in no servers) 2015-09-02 13:06:32
think limiting availability is a satisfactory way of doing so. > "Why do I need to send data through a server?" Doesn't > really make much sense if you can guarantee un-eaves-droppable > end-to-end delivery. > But end-to-end delivery uses /...\ multitude of servers and routers, so it's just not about who owns the content. The Internet infrastructure is not virtual and it actually costs a lot to companies who don't get a dime of royalty on your software. > meaning folk's notions of privacy and possession
anishmg [GG] Re: Which decentralized products do you use day to day? 2016-07-14 07:06:00
what it's worth, it is pretty easy to setup an offline static tile server (i.e. not editing the database) to serve tiles. For the Internet in a Box/School Server Community Edition project I setup tilesets which may be custom generated (zoom levels, styles) and used offline. I am also
Adam Ierymenko [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Introduction 2014-01-06 10:51:29
also create private distributed LANs. I plan to charge users to create private distributed LANs that are administrated by ZeroTier's own servers... basically you're paying for a reliable infrastructure that I manage and a nice web GUI to admin them. Nothing prevents you from running your own netconf /...\ goals with this project is to make p2p lateral communication easy on public virtual LANs. The fact that peers use a set of centralized servers to find each other is IMHO secondary... making lateral communication easy enables people to easily develop killer apps that want to talk laterally. Once these
Peter Rushforth [GG] Re: Redecentralize Radar, our super picky usable app directory 2017-08-03 10:24:00
site (if you have bower) with : "bower install web-map". There are some map services available here:  http://geogratis.gc.ca/mapml/en/  And server software is available on github OR for issues with the specs or the software:  https://github.com/Maps4HTML  Pleased to discuss here or in issues
Francis Irving [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] "Old" but good article on "The Internet's Original Sin" 2015-08-25 16:25:23
browser standard for this. The thing stopping me making micropayments isn't if I have to pay 5% to Visa or use a centralised server, it is that there is no interface for doing micropayments. Anyone know how the W3C web payments process is getting on http://www.w3.org/Payments/
Janislav Malahov [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] "Old" but good article on "The Internet's Original Sin" 2015-08-25 19:13:27
browser standard for this. The thing stopping me making micropayments isn't if I have to pay 5% to Visa or use a centralised server, it is that there is no interface for doing micropayments. Anyone know how the W3C web payments process is getting on http://www.w3.org/Payments/
Jacob Cook [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Intros and current projects 2013-12-29 17:24:16
know me from the interview I did with Irina for Redecentralize.org. I work on arkOS, the free and open source self-hosting server platform. (that's a mouthful :D) Geared toward easily managing/hosting your websites, email, cloud data and more all from home. https://arkos.io Haven't made any posts
Scott Jenson [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Intros and current projects 2013-12-29 19:26:39
know me from the interview I did with Irina for Redecentralize.org. I work on arkOS, the free and open source self-hosting server platform. (that's a mouthful :D) Geared toward easily managing/hosting your websites, email, cloud data and more all from home. https://arkos.io Haven't made any posts
holger krekel [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Check out Hiveware's decentralized platform (as in no servers) 2015-09-02 12:49:04
Robert Tischer > > Hiveware, Inc > > "You Can't Hack What Doesn't Exist" (meaning centralized servers) > > rtischer@hiveware.com > > > > Congratulations on your upcoming conference. > -- about me: http://holgerkrekel.net/about-me/ contracting: http://merlinux.eu
Jacob Cook [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Decentralization and antifragility 2014-01-14 10:16:12
cited frameworks? I would be happy to integrate a standalone version of it into arkOS, which would be a great companion for upcoming XMPP server support. I read over your blog post as well, it raises some interesting questions. I'll have to read over it a second time before
Paul Frazee [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Decentralization and antifragility 2014-01-14 09:35:05
cited frameworks? I would be happy to integrate a standalone version of it into arkOS, which would be a great companion for upcoming XMPP server support. I read over your blog post as well, it raises some interesting questions. I'll have to read over it a second time before
Adam Ierymenko [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] ZeroTier One public beta (binaries) for Macintosh and Linux 2014-02-13 10:55:53
testing and let auto-update run several times in various VMs. You can try it right now on a Linux cloud server or in a Linux VM if you want. BTW, Windows 7 and 8 will be supported. Vista will probably work too but I'm not sure
Jörg F. Wittenberger [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Applying User-Agent Behaviors in Web Applications to Enable Runtime Extension 2014-03-09 10:40:18
left with one question: how does this relates to autonomy from hosting organizations? Towards this end we require active replication of the "server" end, such that any peer may fail (with malice) any time harming at most itself. Best
Robert Tischer [LibreList] RE: [redecentralize] Check out Hiveware's decentralized platform (as in no servers) 2015-09-02 16:36:16
hellekin Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 2:33 PM To: redecentralize@librelist.com Subject: Re: [redecentralize] Check out Hiveware's decentralized platform (as in no servers) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 09/02/2015 02:49 PM, Robert Tischer wrote: > Robert, the fact you're using non-standard ways to quote
Adam Ierymenko [LibreList] ZeroTier One for Windows 2014-03-07 15:52:33
anyone is running Windows and wants to help, you can grab it here: https://www.zerotier.com/dist/ZeroTier%20One.msi It supports Windows 7 and 8 and Windows Server 2008 or newer. Windows Vista and XP are not supported. Vista has a few issues and might be supported in the future, while XP will
Jacob Cook [LibreList] Wanted: arkOS Volunteer Associate Program Director 2014-03-26 14:33:41
CitizenWeb Project (developer of self-hosted server and data sharing platform arkOS) is looking for a volunteer Associate Program Director to help start a team! If you are in Montreal, Toronto, Ottawa or New York City, check it out: https://citizenweb.is/news/2014/03/assistant-program-director/ Please share far and wide if you know
Robert Tischer [LibreList] Check out Hiveware's decentralized platform (as in no servers) 2015-09-02 07:43:26
email from you soon.   Robert Tischer Hiveware, Inc “You Can’t Hack What Doesn’t Exist” (meaning centralized servers) rtischer@hiveware.com   Congratulations on your upcoming conference
Adrien [LibreList] to explain decentralisation with a simple card game 2015-09-07 20:05:29
more like a real game. It should be kept simple, but it would be nice if we could introduce for example encryption, make the server selection more important etc. Regards, Adrien PS: it's under
Jos Poortvliet [LibreList] connecting 2015-09-16 19:14:02
Eric Mill [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Tell me decentralization news! 2014-04-23 09:52:30
Josh Tauberer's Mail-in-a-box (a system for a self-hosted email server) made the semifinalist round of the Knight News Challenge on a healthier internet, one of 54 semifinalists out of 659 original entries. https://www.newschallenge.org/challenge/2014/submissions/mail-in-a-box Current code, which Josh has been using for 6 months
Jacob Cook [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Status reports - where are you with your work? 2014-04-25 17:54:13
will vastly improve the experience. Latest milestone: 0.5.x presents the first Mailserver plugin, for automatically setting up and managing a very basic mail server on any device, as well as creating/using encrypted filesystems in a flash and much more. In development: our first beta version 0.6 with a radical
Michael Rogers [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Status reports - where are you with your work? 2014-05-02 16:18:26
safe, easy and robust way to communicate. Unlike traditional messaging tools such as email or Twitter, Briar doesn't rely on a central server - messages are synchronized directly between the users' devices. If the Internet's down, Briar can sync via Bluetooth or Wi-Fi, keeping the information flowing
Adam Ierymenko [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization: "I want to believe." 2014-08-02 12:47:06
Steve Phillips <steve@tryingtobeawesome.com> wrote: > 3. For a year or so I've had a design for a zero-knowledge server that nonetheless implements partial search/querying functionality for anyone with the key. Perhaps this could also play some role in the ecosystem. I'll try to write something
Jörg F. Wittenberger [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization: "I want to believe." 2014-08-03 10:45:39
Steve Phillips <steve@tryingtobeawesome.com> wrote: > >> 3. For a year or so I've had a design for a zero-knowledge server that nonetheless implements partial search/querying functionality for anyone with the key. Perhaps this could also play some role in the ecosystem
Adam Ierymenko [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization: "I want to believe." 2014-08-04 16:04:39
steve@tryingtobeawesome.com> wrote: >> >>> 3. For a year or so I've had a design for a zero-knowledge server that nonetheless implements partial search/querying functionality for anyone with the key. Perhaps this could also play some role in the ecosystem. I'll try to write
Adam Ierymenko [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization: "I want to believe." 2014-08-13 21:04:47
part about shrinking the problem. It reminds me of how old NNTP and IRC and similar protocols were run. You had a network of servers run by admin volunteers, so the trust problem was manageable. But there was no king per se... A bit of an oligarchy though
Eric Mill [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization and deperimeterization 2014-08-31 21:36:34
feed, served off your laptop! Oh that was great fun. If my RSS reader (Newsblur) installed ZeroTier on all their servers, would I be able to use it to subscribe to this feed off of your laptop? On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 7:55 PM, David Geib < trustiosity.zrm@gmail.com
Francis Irving [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] RDC 15 2015-10-17 01:17:28
also has also trended in that direction. Although the web's design left the door wide open to centralisation by separating out client and server functionality which was a consequence of a design choice for broken 'hyper' links.  That simplification was pivotal and not always in a good
Jörg F. Wittenberger [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Thoughts on decentralization and deperimeterization 2014-09-04 14:49:06
some* of those issues I skipped. You are right: that's the easy part. Once we got rid of the idea that we need servers the blog is no longer going to be on you laptop only. It's going to be on the devices of the witnesses you choose
Michiel de Jong [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] heads-up - draft api for cloud-to-cloud sharing standard 2015-08-06 19:06:34
FLOSS4P2P unconference, which is here: https://github.com/Decentralized-Sharing-Working-Group/use-cases We built proof-of-concept proxies that can convert for instance a remoteStorage or Cozy server into something that exposes the endpoints required by the ownCloud federation protocol. We also already produced an IETF internet-draft giving an overview of the steps
Pierre Ozoux [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] to explain decentralisation with a simple card game 2015-09-07 19:09:43
hellekin [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] connecting 2015-09-16 16:15:21
Encrypt being almo st > ready: > https://letsencrypt.org/2015/09/14/our-first-cert.html > > That's another problem for people running their own server - solved. > Yep, LetsEncrypt FTW. The perfect way to phase out SSL business, while we're setting up the real GNU Internet. Downside: it creates a SPoF that
Jos Poortvliet [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] connecting 2015-09-17 08:09:46
almo > st > > ready: > > https://letsencrypt.org/2015/09/14/our-first-cert.html > > > > That's another problem for people running their own server - solved. > > > > Yep, LetsEncrypt FTW.  The perfect way to phase out SSL business, while > we're setting
J. Ryan Stinnett [LibreList] Re: Sync/backup session was Re: [redecentralize] RDC 15 2015-10-16 00:17:23
Steve Phillips <steve@tryingtobeawesome.com> wrote: > Syncthing offers no encryption at all, unfortunately; you have to trust the > server storing your data. I'd love for crypto to be added! It's even > written in Go, my fav programming language and the one I know the best
Steve Phillips [LibreList] Re: Sync/backup session was Re: [redecentralize] RDC 15 2015-10-15 23:38:58
Steve Phillips < steve@tryingtobeawesome.com > wrote: > Syncthing offers no encryption at all, unfortunately; you have to trust the > server storing your data.  I'd love for crypto to be added!  It's even > written in Go, my fav programming language
Christian de Larrinaga [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] RDC 15 2015-10-16 13:38:46
also has also trended in that direction. Although the web's design left the door wide open to centralisation by separating out client and server functionality which was a consequence of a design choice for broken 'hyper' links.  That simplification was pivotal and not always in a good
Ira [GG] Re: So centralized! 2016-04-07 09:18:00
Thanks both, the thing I'd like it not just hosting (I have a server..), but someone to maintain it (security upgrades, backups etc) and ensure it stays up and data doesn't get lost.  I'd also settle for mailman