quote email and that
you don't edit replies makes it quite difficult to follow. The "> "
prefix is something most email
software understand.
> Do you feel then that not-physical property is an oxymoron?
>
What I feel about it is seldom interesting to this discussion
/...\ others.
>
Well, it's non-modifiable and non-distributable, so it's proprietary, by
definition. There are quite a number of free
software projects that
don't allow any modification that they don't like. But they still allow
people to propose such modifications, and fork the project
/...\ they like.
The Linux kernel is such a project.
The "current P2P diaspora" depends on free
software, because without
access to the source code, you can't ensure that the
software actually
does what it claims to do. It's really not about property.
> I pay them
quote email and that you
don't edit replies makes it quite difficult to follow. The "> "
prefix is something most email
software understand.
> Do you feel then that not-physical property is an oxymoron?
>
What I feel about it is seldom interesting to this discussion
/...\ others.
>
Well, it's non-modifiable and non-distributable, so it's proprietary, by
definition. There are quite a number of free
software projects that don't
allow any modification that they don't like. But they still allow people to
propose such modifications, and fork the project
/...\ they like.
The Linux kernel is such a project.
The "current P2P diaspora" depends on free
software, because without access
to the source code, you can't ensure that the
software actually does what it
claims to do. It's really not about property.
> I pay them
just a different "machine"
executing it: physical hardware or human agents. But both are
supposed to stick precisely to the rules until the
software is
changed. (And both are usually buggy.)
I was trying to compensate for my bias by
using understatement and ambiguity
/...\ gather
experience. The limits of the system are rather tight: it is
essentially a system to collect/assert proofs of the state of
software agents. The agent's code however is treated like a
contract: no change, no upgrade. The system starts actually by
creating a social contract
/...\ typically operate by defining constraints that
must not be violated, leaving agents free to pursue arbitrary
goals using arbitrary strategies within those limits.
Software
typically provides a menu of capabilities, defined (usually) by
a sequential, goal oriented algorithm, often employing a single
prechosen strategy. Constraints limit
Even during wartime, as restricted
as exchange between intellectuals might be, scientists know no borders, and
build on each other's knowledge. The free
software movement can be
considered yet another contribution to human knowledge and culture, on par
with scientific knowledge.
The arts show that
/...\ ruling class. This won't help us achieve global sustainability in any case.
The power shift requires both global coordination and local autonomy. Only
software freedom can achieve the latter. As to the former, only politics
can do it. Technology alone, especially proprietary technologies, cannot
provide the necessary empowerment
/...\ competing with them in that area. In that sense I and these
sub-vendors are cooperating, not collaborating, which is the Hiveware way
without
software interlocking controls (ie, just the barebones library keeps
me from changing their code). In fact, I really don't want to know anything
about
Even during wartime, as
restricted as exchange between intellectuals might be, scientists know
no borders, and build on each other's knowledge. The free
software
movement can be considered yet another contribution to human knowledge
and culture, on par with scientific knowledge.
The arts show that
/...\ ruling class. This won't help us achieve global sustainability in any
case. The power shift requires both global coordination and local
autonomy. Only
software freedom can achieve the latter. As to the
former, only politics can do it. Technology alone, especially
proprietary technologies, cannot provide the necessary empowerment
/...\ There's no such thing as the philosophy of "open source", forced or not.
Open source is a reduction of the free
software philosophy to its
engineering aspect, specifically designed to tame corporate fears about
anything social. It succeeded in bringing free
software to the
mainstream
Just go to "google @ ZT1 earth"
and enjoy.
3. Sustainability: the resources (earned via ads, see above) to
invest into polishing the
software and the experience, allowing it to
build new services (GOTO 1)
IOW I think there is more to decentralization than the network topology
/...\ protocol. However I do agree with you, Adam, that NATs
are making it even harder to grow sustained decentralized deployments of
software and services. But we also need to consider monetization or
economical sustainability, easy
software distribution and well evolved
forms of collective deployments of
software.
best,
holger
/...\ open and simple and straightforward. All those complicated, fragmented p2p monstrosities have their own peculiar APIs and very complex specifications. That means that
software built upon them cannot interoperate easily with other
software built upon others. IP and open standards like HTTP, JSON, XML, etc. are designed for heterogenous ecosystems
Bastien Guerry [LibreList] FLOSS4P2P: Call for Participation 2015-02-18 10:28:26 London workshop in March, gathering FLOSS projects that are
building
software for peer production and organization, with a focus
on distributed platforms. Scholarships to attend are offered to
grassroots communities.
** Context **
We know that the Internet was originally decentralized, with protocols
and services built by hackers. However, with the arrival
/...\ emergence of
Internet-enabled collaborative communities building shared libre/ open
resources. Commons-based Peer to Peer Production (CBPP) is rapidly
growing: not just for
software and encyclopedias, but also for
information (OpenStreetMap, Wikihow), hardware (FabLabs, Open Source
Ecology), accommodation (Couchsurfing) and currency (Bitcoin,
Altcoins).
In the last few years
/...\ also need to re-decentralize the Internet. Many initiatives are being
undertaken under this premise (e.g. Ethereum, Diaspora, OwnCloud,
MediaGoblin, Sandstorm). These new
software tools may also be useful
to boost CBPP communities further. In this workshop, we will gather
those working around the decentralized FLOSS that could help CBPP/P2P
different "machine" executing it:
physical hardware or human agents. But both are supposed to stick
precisely to the rules until the
software is changed. (And both are
usually buggy.) I was trying to compensate for my bias by using understatement and ambiguity
/...\ operate by defining constraints that must not be violated, leaving agents free to pursue arbitrary goals using arbitrary strategies within those limits.
Software typically provides a menu of capabilities, defined (usually) by a sequential, goal oriented algorithm, often employing a single prechosen strategy
/...\ Constraints limitÂ
software, but do not dominate the situation as in law.Â
I must obey the traffic laws while driving to work. The law knows nothing about my goal. I am in charge. If/when we all have self-driving cars, traffic laws
Thomas Waldmann [LibreList] yet another pythonista 2014-08-01 21:06:30 MoinMoin!
First post - I am Thomas and interested in redecentralizing the
internet, improving software security, exploring new crypto and privacy
enhancing software.
Personally, I work on Python stuff usually, like MoinMoin Wiki,
nsupdate.info dyndns service / software, bepasty generalized pastebin
software.
Cheers,
Thomas
----
GPG ID: FAF7B393
GPG FP: 6D5B EF9A DD20
tech? The
free and almost free world that corporations push now is no help
because people are not used to paying for
software anymore, or
services.
Maybe the solution is to just charge for this stuff and fight the
race to the bottom. Another idea I had is charge corporations
/...\ cheap or attractive enough
than the alternative.
This is why I tell people I am not an Open Source developer, but a
Free
Software developer. I don't work for free.
Max
Adam Ierymenko wrote:
Had one other thought I wanted to add about free economics:
I have this intuition
/...\ infrastructure for personal
computing.
The way Apple uses cloud is close to what
we ought to be trying to build in the more free/open
software community. Apple uses cloud exactly this way—
as dumb storage and support for rich endpoint devices.
They just don’t do the open
google @ ZT1 earth"
> and enjoy.
>
> 3. Sustainability: the resources (earned via ads, see above) to
> invest into polishing the
software and the experience, allowing it to
> build new services (GOTO 1)
>
> IOW I think there is more to decentralization than the network
/...\ protocol. However I do agree with you, Adam, that NATs
> are making it even harder to grow sustained decentralized deployments of
>
software and services. But we also need to consider monetization or
> economical sustainability, easy
software distribution and well evolved
> forms of collective deployments of
software
better. Once download. Following requests are
handled locally.
> 3. Sustainability: the resources (earned via ads, see above) to
> invest into polishing the
software and the experience, allowing it to
> build new services (GOTO 1)
Bingo! This kind of project can easily eat a lifetime. It can burn
/...\ protocol. However I do agree with you, Adam, that NATs
> are making it even harder to grow sustained decentralized deployments of
>
software and services. But we also need to consider monetization or
> economical sustainability
Can't agree more.
> well evolved forms of collective deployments of
software /...\ That's an oxymoron.
Developers will never allow collective deployments of
software to
evolve. They rather reinvent the wheel for "not invented here", "not the
favorite language" or outright ignorance delivering old wine in new
skins
quite surprised to read, in the first
message I receive from the list, the sentence above.
How is "redecentralization" compatible with proprietary
software at all?
"open read-only source" sounds like you're trying to get free work (as
in gratis) from your users, without letting
/...\ them contribute changes to
your
software. How is that decentralized? Instead of decentralizing
the process, you're simply changing the actors in control of the
process. "open read-only source" is just a fancy word for proprietary
software, or am I mistaken?
In the interview, I had understood
/...\ that the project was about "open
source" solutions. Now, open source is already free
software without
ethics, but from there to "open read-only source", there's as huge a gap
as between vegan food and McDonald's. Am I on the wrong list?
Regards
Tiki Suite is a selection of Free / Libre / Open Source
Software
(FLOSS) server, web, mobile and desktop apps with a concerted focus on
greater interoperability, security and adaptability, which is aimed at
small & medium-sized organizations. The Tiki Suite is especially
suited to decentralized and knowledge-centric organizations
/...\ /Tiki+Suite
"How come all our systems don't work together?" is a common
frustration. Most organizations use dozens or even hundreds of
software applications, systems and online services. Interoperability
between them is a constant struggle. Time is wasted moving data from
system to system. Data & feature duplication
/...\ handling the
interoperability between the components. So your organization can
maintain full control of all your data, with Free / Libre / Open
Source
software (FLOSS). You can self-host on premise or on rented
servers. It can be customized to your needs and we urge you to
contribute to this community
Jörg F. Wittenberger [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hosting services in the browser 2014-06-06 08:46:27 seeing similarities between code as in law
and code as in computer programs, you might enjoy how this
equivalence became the heart of a
software architecture:
http://askemos.org/index.html?_v=footnote&_id=1223
Goes all the way down to start from an analogy of a constitution...
I'm thrilled to see this idea eventually
/...\ level-- we need to start thinking about algorithms and
their spaces of execution as social statements. In the
information age, they are. The way
software is structured
and executed affects the form and function of the
socioeconomic realm.
On Apr 6, 2014, at 12:21 PM, Paul Frazee < pfrazee@gmail.com
/...\ reliance on upstream decisions. Because
there is no process model in the
application layer, there is no opportunity
to reconfigure individual components in
the
software. The scripts are merged into
a single program.
By
instead splitting Web applications into
multiple programs using Web Workers, we
can disentangle the hard
subvert laws. For one, it's a dangerously inaccurate. For two, it's not what I'm here for.
None of the
software you mention even addresses net neutrality. You use "censorship" very vaguely, and your post mostly reads as an attempt to echo back the community's ideas.
Anybody
/...\ sure bet at least some people if asked on the street might also say
'Bitcoin' (or alternately, "what's P2P?" or "
Software!") Â So you'll get a
lot of responses and responses will vary substantially, but this is my
sense based on talking to people I know around
/...\ least in primary school levels) can understand it and act on things
presented in it within less than a minute. Â Look.
Software. Click (one
click, two max!) to get it. Done.
2) What are some ways to Decentralize Everything? To the DNS and beyond?
Stuff that comes
have a *lot* of uses. It opens up the potential for things like black box certificate authorities that could be distributed as open source
software. The CA signs your key. With what? A key pair it generated internally that cannot *ever* be viewed by *anyone*. :) -Adam
/...\ hybrid peer to peer protocol that creates virtual Ethernet networks (plural). ZeroTier is more like SDN for everyone, everywhere. (SDN is
software defined networking, and refers to the creation of
software defined virtual networks in data centers.)
I've been following CJDNS for a while. I know it's being
Eric Mill [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] FireChat in Economist 2014-06-03 10:35:02 being closed source
completely rules it out from being part of the decentralized
web.
Agreed.
Certainly, open source
software that is hosted on a server
can still be silently backdoored in some ways -- you can't
generally verify that the server is running the same code
that's in public
/...\ source control.
This BTW is only correct as far as it pertains to the secrecy of the
information handled by the
software. Though even unmodified code
would often leave data accessible to administrators anyways.
To assess correctness of execution there is a proven way: one can
always
/...\ software at multiple server (or rather peers in that
case) at the same time and have them audit each other.
(I.e. each peer would almost act as if it was the server, but check
with the net whether the result is acceptable according the the
underlying "smart contract". The check
Kiktron RAKO [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] 2014-06-06 16:04:20 annoncube.com for the fund, once till the KS is in the approval process and another once is approved that link the project to other
software projects.
The reason is a polciy from KS that say we can not use the funds for any
software that we are not creators (funny
/...\ these incredibly great ideas? My idea is to make a new social network that has at it's main core the Open
Software movement coming from Richard Stallman. This is at all means just the building block of my idea. I need more people that are gifted in these domains
attempt to solve the need to trust Citibank's remote service, but I do offer a way to extend Citibank's
software at runtime without compromising its integrity. Mint, in this case, is one such extension ("now with more graphs!"). What Web applications choose to make alterable is at their
/...\ other,
> The trust question I'm investigating is application-integrity during third-party extension. Autonomy means, in this case, freedom to introduce new
software without the host's blessing, like how an OS protects its kernel so that 3rd party code can execute without auditing by the OS vendor
/...\ that we can't
modify them anymore. Â Dev time...
Furthermore we're running the askemos.org and other web sites from our
own
software and test network. Â That is we actually test that we can run
it from cheap peers behind consumer grade ADSL lines at home
Paul Frazee [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] FireChat in Economist 2014-06-03 10:17:33 being closed source
completely rules it out from being part of the decentralized
web.
Agreed.
Certainly, open source
software that is hosted on a server
can still be silently backdoored in some ways -- you can't
generally verify that the server is running the same code
that's in public
/...\ source control.
This BTW is only correct as far as it pertains to the secrecy of the
information handled by the
software. Though even unmodified code
would often leave data accessible to administrators anyways.
To assess correctness of execution there is a proven way: one can
always
/...\ software at multiple server (or rather peers in that
case) at the same time and have them audit each other.
(I.e. each peer would almost act as if it was the server, but check
with the net whether the result is acceptable according the the
underlying "smart contract". The check
Jörg F. Wittenberger [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] FireChat in Economist 2014-06-04 10:32:38 being
closed source completely rules it out from
being part of the decentralized web.
Agreed.
Certainly, open source
software that
is hosted on a server can still be
silently backdoored in some ways -- you
can't generally verify that the server
is running the same code that's in
public
/...\ source control.
This BTW is only correct as far as it pertains
to the secrecy of the information handled by the
software. Though even unmodified code would
often leave data accessible to administrators
anyways.
To assess correctness of execution there is a
proven way: one can always
/...\ software at
multiple server (or rather peers in that case)
at the same time and have them audit each other.
(I.e. each peer would almost act as if it was
the server, but check with the net whether the
result is acceptable according the the
underlying "smart contract". The check
Jörg F. Wittenberger [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] FireChat in Economist 2014-06-03 08:29:42 being closed source
completely rules it out from being part of the decentralized
web.
Agreed.
Certainly, open source
software that is hosted on a server
can still be silently backdoored in some ways -- you can't
generally verify that the server is running the same code
that's in public
/...\ source control.
This BTW is only correct as far as it pertains to the secrecy of the
information handled by the
software. Though even unmodified code
would often leave data accessible to administrators anyways.
To assess correctness of execution there is a proven way: one can
always
/...\ software at multiple server (or rather peers in that
case) at the same time and have them audit each other.
(I.e. each peer would almost act as if it was the server, but check
with the net whether the result is acceptable according the the
underlying "smart contract". The check
site (if you have bower) with : "bower install web-map". There are some map services available here:Â http://geogratis.gc.ca/mapml/en/Â And server software is available on github OR for issues with the specs or the software:Â https://github.com/Maps4HTMLÂ Pleased to discuss here or in issues
experienced enough to judge whether this is true.
But it fosters my idea that we must talk about control, not about
software.
If it is true that some services requires centralization, we have to
control the centralized infrastructure by appropriate means.
For example: In Germany the top level domain
/...\ make strange laws.
If you can read German this might entertain you.
http://www.sudelbuch.de/2014/08/15/nimm-doch-mal-wieder-das-pferd/
So. In one word. Let us discuss not only
software but also alternative
means of common control.
Ciao
level-- we need to start thinking about algorithms and their spaces of execution as social statements. In the information age, they are. The way
software is structured and executed affects the form and function of the socioeconomic realm.
On Apr 6, 2014, at 12:21 PM, Paul Frazee < pfrazee@gmail.com
/...\ reliance on upstream decisions. Because there is no process model in the application layer, there is no opportunity to reconfigure individual components in the
software. The scripts are merged into a single program.
 By instead splitting Web applications into multiple programs using Web Workers, we can disentangle
sure bet at least some people if asked on the street might also say
'Bitcoin' (or alternately, "what's P2P?" or "
Software!") So you'll get a
lot of responses and responses will vary substantially, but this is my
sense based on talking to people
/...\ that anyone (at
least in primary school levels) can understand it and act on things
presented in it within less than a minute. Look.
Software. Click (one
click, two max!) to get it. Done.
2) What are some ways to Decentralize Everything? To the DNS and beyond?
Stuff that comes
Jörg F. Wittenberger [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Spring of User Experience 2014-03-03 16:07:34 good idea, it will result in a highly insecure product.
I'll certainly NOT invite you to find a hack or anything into the
software we wrote as a proof of anything. That would be
pseudo-scientific and no proof at all. After all we might have
/...\ find any, I hope you
might find the results useful for you.
You are also invited to hack around in the
software. If you find
bugs or security vulnerabilities please report.
We also need some good coders. E.g. we'd like to have alternatives
the SSL layer (currently
other,
> The trust question I'm investigating is application-integrity during third-party extension. Autonomy means, in this case, freedom to introduce new
software without the host's blessing, like how an OS protects its kernel so that 3rd party code can execute without auditing by the OS vendor
/...\ extend that we can't
modify them anymore. Dev time...
Furthermore we're running the askemos.org and other web sites from our
own
software and test network. That is we actually test that we can run
it from cheap peers behind consumer grade ADSL lines at home. Most
nodes
hybrid peer to peer protocol that creates virtual Ethernet networks (plural). ZeroTier is more like SDN for everyone, everywhere. (SDN is software defined networking, and refers to the creation of software defined virtual networks in data centers.) I've been following CJDNS for a while. I know it's being
hybrid peer to peer protocol that creates virtual Ethernet networks (plural). ZeroTier is more like SDN for everyone, everywhere. (SDN is software defined networking, and refers to the creation of software defined virtual networks in data centers.)
I've been following CJDNS for a while. I know it's being
bugs the heck out of me that you'd ever have to work somewhere to edit the
software. To frame this conversation, let me assert this: "The Web became less  anti-fragile once hosting became more complex than creating marked-up documents." At that point, you couldn
/...\ integrated
> into any website (preferably with single-session support).
>
> I've just finished a blogpost on the topic of "Antifragile
Software
> Ecosystems" and how decentralization aids in achieving this:
>
> https://opkode.com/blog/2014/01/14/antifragile-software-ecosystems
>
> I'd appreciate you guys and gals reading
On Aug 14, 2014, at 1:30 AM, David Geib < trustiosity.zrm@gmail.com > wrote: It
Please check out my decentralized dev and runtime platform called
> Hiveware at www.hiveware.com which stands for Hyperstructured
> Interactive Virtual Environment
softWare. I have been working on it
> for many years. I expect to launch the engine by the end of the year
> called the Hiveware
/...\ painting, but that is not directly supported in today's
Internet. And you can share it with responsibility and mutual respect
undergirded by interlocking
software structures. This is what Hiveware does.
It creates the potential for a new Internet where cooperative sharing can
take place while maintaining ownerships (there
seems
like it would be easy to push the analogy too far, as custom,
law, contracts, etc. are only vaguely similar to
software. I
would expect at least a few very interesting and annoying
differences, though maybe also some surprising and useful
isomorphisms.
That's pretty much our experience
/...\ just a different "machine" executing it:
physical hardware or human agents. But both are supposed to stick
precisely to the rules until the
software is changed. (And both are
usually buggy
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with
good idea, it will result in a highly insecure product.
I'll certainly NOT invite you to find a hack or anything into the
software we wrote as a proof of anything. That would be
pseudo-scientific and no proof at all. After all we might have
/...\ find any, I hope you
might find the results useful for you.
You are also invited to hack around in the
software. If you find
bugs or security vulnerabilities please report.
We also need some good coders. E.g. we'd like to have alternatives
open and simple and straightforward. All those complicated, fragmented p2p monstrosities have their own peculiar APIs and very complex specifications. That means that software built upon them cannot interoperate easily with other software built upon others. IP and open standards like HTTP, JSON, XML, etc. are designed for heterogenous ecosystems
internet was different for a while. However, you may have
noticed the trend of people using phones and tablets and get their
software not from markets, but distribution systems like app
stores. I fear the ideal that markets do the right thing is a joke
because they are impossible
/...\ corrections I can make.<br>
I personally enjoy both the technical and the
social/political issues of<br>
decentralized
software and I hope some of you do too.<br>
<br>
Cheers!<br>
Max<br>
</blockquo></div
infrastructure for personal computing. The way Apple uses cloud is close to what we ought to be trying to build in the more free/open
software community. Apple uses cloud exactly this way— as dumb storage and support for rich endpoint devices. They just don’t do the open
/...\ know what you think and any corrections I can make.
I personally enjoy both the technical and the social/political issues of
decentralized
software and I hope some of you do too.
Cheers
sept. - 08:59, hellekin a écrit :
> How is "redecentralization" compatible with proprietary
software at all?
It is not. I think this is the first message of this kind received on the
list.
> In the interview, I had understood that the project was about "open
/...\ source" solutions. Now, open source is already free
software without
> ethics, but from there to "open read-only source", there's as huge a gap
> as between vegan food and McDonald's. Am I on the wrong list?
I think you're in the right
infrastructure for personal computing. The way Apple uses cloud is close to what we ought to be trying to build in the more free/open
software community. Apple uses cloud exactly this way— as dumb storage and support for rich endpoint devices. They just don’t do the open
/...\ know what you think and any corrections I can make.
I personally enjoy both the technical and the social/political issues of
decentralized
software and I hope some of you do too.
Cheers
level-- we need to start thinking about algorithms and their spaces of execution as social statements. In the information age, they are. The way
software is structured and executed affects the form and function of the socioeconomic realm. On Apr 6, 2014, at 12:21 PM, Paul Frazee < pfrazee@gmail.com
/...\ reliance on upstream decisions. Because there is no process model in the application layer, there is no opportunity to reconfigure individual components in the
software. The scripts are merged into a single program.
By instead splitting Web applications into multiple programs using Web Workers, we can disentangle the hard
working on a maybe-decentralized email list
software (ypotf).
You can interview me if I finish it, or perhaps if I don't.
I use a bunch of things that might count because they communicate
substantially less with networks than contemporary services do.
* nmh (previously mutt and offlineimap)
* fossil
* MHTML
/...\ recoll
* recollweb
* newsbeuter
* Garmin eTrex 30
And, of course, once I have all this stuff locally, I read and edit
files with assorted ordinary
software
I'm thinking about making a standalone ZIM file reader and connecting it
to recoll because Kiwix is annoying to install and to use.
Once
Tic Nticsebastian [LibreList] (no subject) 2014-05-28 00:08:52 these incredibly great ideas? My idea is to make a new social network that has at it's main core the Open Software movement coming from Richard Stallman. This is at all means just the building block of my idea. I need more people that are gifted in these domains
released a development version of a new piece of software today that may be of interest to this list. If anyone is willing to try it and provide comments or bug reports it would be appreciated.
http://www.trustiosity.com/snow/ https://github.com/zrm/snow
Goffi [LibreList] Hello + Salut à Toi / Libervia 2015-08-22 18:15:14 console). We have many planed projects like a
micro-computer pre-installed (based on a Olinuxino Lime2), a Tor
version, and integration in other software.
The project is already available in Debian, Arch Linux and some other
distros, but the versions there start to be old, we are preparing
Redecentralizers: Please check out my decentralized dev and runtime platform called Hiveware at www.hiveware.com which stands for Hyperstructured Interactive Virtual Environment softWare. I have been working on it for many years. I expect to launch the engine by the end of the year called the Hiveware Big Bang
Thomas Levine [GG] Hi and mailing lists 2016-04-22 07:50:00 expensive in
the summer.
Reading about the centralization of this mailing list, I recall that I
am working on centralized mailing list software that is easier to
administrate and is thus maybe a bit less centralized.
http://tlevine.sdf.org/ypotf/wiki?name=interestingness
Jeremie Miller [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] London panelist? 2014-04-25 08:01:11 point of view :( Can anyone put me in touch with a decentralized networking expert, ideally someone with a completely opensource project (hardware or software), who might be available in London towards the end of May? Thank you! -- Stephan Tual Chief Communications Officer Ethereum.org
David Geib < trustiosity.zrm@gmail.com > wrote: I released a development version of a new piece of software today that may be of interest to this list. If anyone is willing to try it and provide comments or bug reports it would be appreciated.
http://www.trustiosity.com/snow/ https://github.com/zrm/snow
Kiktron RAKO [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] 2014-05-27 23:24:13 these incredibly great ideas? My idea is to make a new social network that has at it's main core the Open Software movement coming from Richard Stallman. This is at all means just the building block of my idea. I need more people that are gifted in these domains
Danny Knestaut [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello! 2013-12-09 14:15:09 Yeah, I can't code or hear worth a damn, but I can write. If you
want a blog post reviewing software, I can deliver. Especially if
you need it from the point of view of someone who is not
particularly tech savvy. If you want to give
David Geib < trustiosity.zrm@gmail.com > wrote: I released a development version of a new piece of software today that may be of interest to this list. If anyone is willing to try it and provide comments or bug reports it would be appreciated.
http://www.trustiosity.com/snow/ https://github.com/zrm/snow
David Geib < trustiosity.zrm@gmail.com > wrote: I released a development version of a new piece of software today that may be of interest to this list. If anyone is willing to try it and provide comments or bug reports it would be appreciated.
http://www.trustiosity.com/snow/ https://github.com/zrm/snow
David Geib < trustiosity.zrm@gmail.com > wrote: I released a development version of a new piece of software today that may be of interest to this list. If anyone is willing to try it and provide comments or bug reports it would be appreciated.
http://www.trustiosity.com/snow/ https://github.com/zrm/snow
David Geib < trustiosity.zrm@gmail.com > wrote: I released a development version of a new piece of software today that may be of interest to this list. If anyone is willing to try it and provide comments or bug reports it would be appreciated.
http://www.trustiosity.com/snow/ https://github.com/zrm/snow
David Geib < trustiosity.zrm@gmail.com > wrote: I released a development version of a new piece of software today that may be of interest to this list. If anyone is willing to try it and provide comments or bug reports it would be appreciated.
http://www.trustiosity.com/snow/ https://github.com/zrm/snow
released a development version of a new piece of software today that may
> be of interest to this list. If anyone is willing to try it and provide
> comments or bug reports it would be appreciated.
>
> http://www.trustiosity.com/snow/
> https://github.com/zrm/snow
>
this
Odinn Cyberguerrilla <odinn.cyberguerrilla@riseup.net> wrote:
>> I released a development version of a new piece of software today that may
>> be of interest to this list. If anyone is willing to try it and provide
>> comments or bug reports it would be appreciated
access some known-censored content, and to do so through trusted nodes
only. In principle there's nothing wrong with this model, and the
software may indeed achieve that goal (given critical enough mass). The
fact that it is unapologetically non-anonymous would be troublesome in
any other context
seems like it would be easy to push the analogy too far, as custom, law, contracts, etc. are only vaguely similar to software. I would expect at least a few very interesting and annoying differences, though maybe also some surprising and useful isomorphisms.
Dave
usual name resolution methods like DNS instead of using IP addresses. The names would only work for people with the software installed but so do the IP addresses.
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Adam Ierymenko < adam.ierymenko@zerotier.com > wrote:
Heh. I should clarify that: you have
usual name resolution methods like DNS instead of using IP addresses. The names would only work for people with the software installed but so do the IP addresses.
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Adam Ierymenko < adam.ierymenko@zerotier.com > wrote:
Heh. I should clarify that: you have
know what you think and any corrections I can make.
I personally enjoy both the technical and the social/political issues of
decentralized software and I hope some of you do too.
Cheers
know what you think and any corrections I can make.
I personally enjoy both the technical and the social/political issues of
decentralized software and I hope some of you do too.
Cheers
what you think and any corrections I can make.
> I personally enjoy both the technical and the social/political
> issues of
> decentralized software and I hope some of you do too.
>
> Cheers
enjoy both the technical and the social/political
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corrections I can make.
>> I personally enjoy both the technical and the social/political
>> issues of
>> decentralized software and I hope some of you do too.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Max
>>
>>
>
--
Christian de Larrinaga
FBCS, CITP, MCMA
Bastien Guerry [LibreList] Hackadons 2015-10-17 15:09:56 Internet is a manyfold challenge: it is a technical,
a legal and political one. But it is also a financial challenge.
To many free softwares and common goods projects are not financially
supported. To many of these projects rely on the good will and the
free time of a fistul
adam.ierymenko [GG] Re: So centralized! 2016-04-06 15:04:00 That brings up something that should go in everyone's "reasons things get centralized" list: Installing, maintaining, upgrading, and troubleshooting software installs is very hard and time consuming. Centralization delegates that responsibility to someone else for a fee, either monetary or in the form of implied consent to data mining
Benjamin ANDRE [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] 2014-05-28 00:20:46 these incredibly great ideas? My idea is to make a new social network that has at it's main core the Open Software movement coming from Richard Stallman. This is at all means just the building block of my idea. I need more people that are gifted in these domains
Francis Irving [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello! 2013-12-10 01:52:00 wrote:
> Yeah, I can't code or hear worth a damn, but I can write. If you
> want a blog post reviewing software, I can deliver. Especially if
> you need it from the point of view of someone who is not
> particularly tech savvy
Benjamin ANDRE [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello! 2013-12-10 11:40:51 danny@knestaut.net >
Yeah, I can't code or hear worth a damn, but I can write. If you
want a blog post reviewing software, I can deliver. Especially if
you need it from the point of view of someone who is not
particularly tech savvy. If you want to give
Jan Kunkel [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello! 2013-12-10 15:34:56 code or hear worth a damn, but I can write. If you want
>> a
>> blog post reviewing software, I can deliver. Especially if you need
>> it from
>> the point of view of someone who is not particularly tech savvy
Jan Kunkel [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello! 2013-12-11 22:18:27
Danny Knestaut [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello! 2013-12-10 10:16:04 danny@knestaut.net >
Yeah, I can't code
or hear worth a damn, but I can write. If you want a
blog post reviewing software, I can deliver. Especially
if you need it from the point of view of someone who is
not particularly tech savvy. If you want to give
Benjamin ANDRE [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello! 2013-12-10 17:36:48 danny@knestaut.net >
Yeah, I can't code
or hear worth a damn, but I can write. If you want a
blog post reviewing software, I can deliver. Especially
if you need it from the point of view of someone who is
not particularly tech savvy. If you want to give
ambitious and thought-out projects I have seen so far.
For the peer-to-peer connections, they are currently using an
(optional) locally-installed software called "Avatar Bridge" which is
aimed to fill the gap until WebRTC reaches maturity and wide browser
support.
There are voices declaring browser-side JavaScript
other.
>
> I'm involved with redecentralize projects due to the privacy issue
> and out of an interest in simpler, user-modifiable software, which
> web systems tend to restrict. I work solo in Austin on a project
> called Grimwire that's in this realm
involved with redecentralize projects due to the privacy
>>> issue and out of an interest in simpler, user-modifiable
>>> software, which web systems tend to restrict. I work solo in
>>> Austin on a project called Grimwire that's in this realm
other.
>
> I'm involved with redecentralize projects due to the privacy issue
> and out of an interest in simpler, user-modifiable software, which
> web systems tend to restrict. I work solo in Austin on a project
> called Grimwire that's in this realm
know each other. I'm involved with redecentralize projects due to the privacy issue and out of an interest in simpler, user-modifiable software, which web systems tend to restrict. I work solo in Austin on a project called Grimwire that's in this realm. I'm also involved
maze@strahlungsfrei.de [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Intros and current projects 2014-01-02 23:56:09 involved with redecentralize projects due to the privacy issue
>> and out of an interest in simpler, user-modifiable software, which
>> web systems tend to restrict. I work solo in Austin on a project
>> called Grimwire that's in this realm. I'm also involved
involved with redecentralize projects due to the privacy
>>> issue and out of an interest in simpler, user-modifiable
>>> software, which web systems tend to restrict. I work solo in
>>> Austin on a project called Grimwire that's in this realm
more deeply.
The trust question I'm investigating is application-integrity during third-party extension. Autonomy means, in this case, freedom to introduce new software without the host's blessing, like how an OS protects its kernel so that 3rd party code can execute without auditing by the OS vendor
Ira [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] Hello! 2015-09-07 08:47:29 SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA256
Hi all,
This is my first email to this list so here's a short introduction :)
I am a free-software and open-education volunteer mainly working on
the XSCE (short for School Server Community Edition) project. I've
volunteered for the OLPC project from
involved with redecentralize projects due to the privacy
>>> issue and out of an interest in simpler, user-modifiable
>>> software, which web systems tend to restrict. I work solo in
>>> Austin on a project called Grimwire that's in this realm
Please check out my decentralized dev and runtime platform called Hiveware
> at www.hiveware.com which stands for Hyperstructured Interactive Virtual
> Environment softWare. I have been working on it for many years. I expect to
> launch the engine by the end of the year called the Hiveware Big Bang
integrated
> into any website (preferably with single-session support).
>
> I've just finished a blogpost on the topic of "Antifragile Software
> Ecosystems" and how decentralization aids in achieving this:
>
> https://opkode.com/blog/2014/01/14/antifragile-software-ecosystems
>
> I'd appreciate you guys and gals reading
Eric Mill [LibreList] Re: [redecentralize] FireChat in Economist 2014-06-02 11:34:27 being closed source completely rules it out from being part of the decentralized web. Certainly, open source software that is hosted on a server can still be silently backdoored in some ways -- you can't generally verify that the server is running the same code that's in public source
integrated into any website (preferably with single-session support).
>
> I've just finished a blogpost on the topic of "Antifragile Software Ecosystems"
> and how decentralization aids in achieving this:
>
> https://opkode.com/blog/2014/01/14/antifragile-software-ecosystems
>
> I'd appreciate you guys and gals reading
ambitious and thought-out projects I have
seen so far.
For the peer-to-peer connections, they are currently using
an
(optional) locally-installed software called "Avatar Bridge"
which is
aimed to fill the gap until WebRTC reaches maturity and wide
browser
support.
There are voices declaring browser-side JavaScript
ambitious and thought-out projects I have
seen so far.
For the peer-to-peer connections, they are currently using
an
(optional) locally-installed software called "Avatar Bridge"
which is
aimed to fill the gap until WebRTC reaches maturity and wide
browser
support.
There are voices declaring browser-side JavaScript
Harvard University, such
as Yochai Benkler or Primavera De
Filippi
Dynamic, young, interdisciplinary team with a
horizontal and inclusive culture
Combines social research + software tool
building, focusing on social impact
Attractive work conditions and perks, with
multiple benefits
Feel free to write any question/doubt to
p2pmodels@ucm.es
including in the subject
attempt to solve the need to trust Citibank's
remote service, but I do offer a way to extend Citibank's
software at runtime without compromising its integrity. Mint,
in this case, is one such extension ("now with more graphs!").
What Web applications choose to make alterable is at their
attempt to solve the need to trust Citibank's
remote service, but I do offer a way to extend Citibank's
software at runtime without compromising its integrity. Mint,
in this case, is one such extension ("now with more graphs!").
What Web applications choose to make alterable is at their
Tarsnap for simple backup (yay for encryption!). I simply don't sync data between my devices because there's no _open source_ software that _securely_ allows me to do so. Curious to know the specific reasons why Syncthing does not qualify
involved with redecentralize projects due to the privacy
>>> issue and out of an interest in simpler, user-modifiable
>>> software, which web systems tend to restrict. I work solo in
>>> Austin on a project called Grimwire that's in this realm
Tarsnap for simple backup (yay for encryption!). I simply don't sync data between my devices because there's no _open source_ software that _securely_ allows me to do so.
Tahoe-LAFS might be good enough, since at least I could access my data from everywhere, but it doesn
team on building
privacy-enhancing technology, today in a capacity as an associate professor.
So far we had 1.4 million installs of our Tribler software.
Now we're got the TOR wire specs operational in Beta with
modifications for UDP support.
Plus backwards compatibility and anonymous streaming from existing
Bittorrent
enhancing technology, today in a capacity as an associate
>> professor.
>> So far we had 1.4 million installs of our Tribler software.
>> Now we're got the TOR wire specs operational in Beta with
>> modifications for UDP support.
>> Plus backwards compatibility
enhancing technology, today in a capacity as an associate
>> professor.
>> So far we had 1.4 million installs of our Tribler software.
>> Now we're got the TOR wire specs operational in Beta with
>> modifications for UDP support.
>> Plus backwards compatibility
have a spec I started. But nobody wants it. Money, remember?)
Pshhht, rendering? We’ll get new clien
t hardware, new client software. Big whoop. I’m a lot more worried about whose EULA is going to govern my life . ---
-- konklone.com | @konklone
reliance on upstream decisions. Because there is no process model in the application layer, there is no opportunity to reconfigure individual components in the software. The scripts are merged into a single program.
 By instead splitting Web applications into multiple programs using Web Workers, we can disentangle
reliance on upstream decisions. Because there is no process model in the application layer, there is no opportunity to reconfigure individual components in the software. The scripts are merged into a single program.
 By instead splitting Web applications into multiple programs using Web Workers, we can disentangle
Pierre Ozoux [LibreList] IndieHosters, hosting for freedom 2014-12-21 20:49:42 Just a quick reminder to tell you that it is our last hours to
support IndieHosters
IndieHosters is a network of hoster of free software as a service
where the user is free to migrate from one service provider to
another.
More information:
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/indiehosters/x/9169969
Founded by Michiel
Paul Frazee [LibreList] Intros and current projects 2013-12-29 15:11:48 know each other. I'm involved with redecentralize projects due to the privacy issue and out of an interest in simpler, user-modifiable software, which web systems tend to restrict. I work solo in Austin on a project called Grimwire that's in this realm. I'm also involved
JC Brand [LibreList] Decentralization and antifragility 2014-01-14 19:57:20 that can be
integrated into any website (preferably with single-session support).
I've just finished a blogpost on the topic of "Antifragile Software Ecosystems"
and how decentralization aids in achieving this:
https://opkode.com/blog/2014/01/14/antifragile-software-ecosystems
I'd appreciate you guys and gals reading it and sharing your ideas
maze@strahlungsfrei.de [LibreList] Avatar "operating system for the internet" 2014-02-02 17:46:44 ambitious and thought-out projects I have seen so far.
For the peer-to-peer connections, they are currently using an
(optional) locally-installed software called "Avatar Bridge" which is
aimed to fill the gap until WebRTC reaches maturity and wide browser
support.
There are voices declaring browser
Anish Mangal [LibreList] Hello! 2015-09-02 22:02:28 SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA256
Hi all,
This is my first email to this list so here's a short introduction :)
I am a free-software and open-education volunteer mainly working on
the XSCE (short for School Server Community Edition) project. I've
volunteered for the OLPC project from
P S [LibreList] First Person Technologies 2014-03-29 17:32:15 anyone. (I have a spec I started. But nobody wants it. Money, remember?) Pshhht, rendering? We’ll get new client hardware, new client software. Big whoop. I’m a lot more worried about whose EULA is going to govern my life
Paul Frazee [LibreList] Local.js framework 2014-03-15 17:31:04 running plugins in Web applications. As I mentioned earlier, it's goal is to improve user autonomy from hosts by freely extending Web software at runtime.
If anybody wants to discuss how they might put the framework to use in an application, feel free to email me ( pfrazee@gmail.com ) or ping
team on building
privacy-enhancing technology, today in a capacity as an associate professor.
So far we had 1.4 million installs of our Tribler software.
Now we're got the TOR wire specs operational in Beta with
modifications for UDP support.
Plus backwards compatibility and anonymous streaming from existing
Bittorrent
Paul Frazee [LibreList] Hosting services in the browser 2014-04-06 14:21:43 reliance on upstream decisions. Because there is no process model in the application layer, there is no opportunity to reconfigure individual components in the software. The scripts are merged into a single program.
 By instead splitting Web applications into multiple programs using Web Workers, we can disentangle
Stephan Tual [LibreList] London panelist? 2014-04-25 14:50:43 point of view :( Can anyone put me in touch with a decentralized networking expert, ideally someone with a completely opensource project (hardware or software), who might be available in London towards the end of May? Thank you! -- Stephan Tual Chief Communications Officer Ethereum.org
mempko [LibreList] The Cloud's Shadow on Grass Computing 2015-04-02 22:01:04 know what you think and any corrections I can make.
I personally enjoy both the technical and the social/political issues of
decentralized software and I hope some of you do too.
Cheers